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    Lets get it on

    Ok brothers. I got a nice workout routine, I keep it up very well, I am on good diet, I have plenty of time for all of it, I was doing research and posting questions for a long time about steroids, talked to some friends that took it. Finally I am ready to do it.
    It will be my 1st cycle ever.
    I want to take Sust 250 and Deca.
    I need help with setting it up though.
    I was thinking:
    1 - 11 week Sust 250 500mg/week
    1 - 6 week Deca 400mg/week
    13 - 16 week Clomid therapy
    1 - 16 week Nolvadex 25mg/day
    1 - 16 week Vitamin B-6 200mg/day

    Honestly Im not sure about Deca in this cycle..as far as how long to go for and about dosage... something tells me I should lower the dosage...since Im taking 500mg of sust. Please Help

    Im 6`3 @ 212 Lbs with %14 bf
    Planning to eat 4000 - 4500 calories a day while on cycle

    Any sugestions ?
    Thank You !

    -Lucas

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    There is one thing I need to know. Im 23 years old.. and I want to have a kid some day..probably next 2 - 3 years. I want to do only one cycle. Is taking steroids now..will have any effect on it ? Make some bad things happen ?
    Thanks

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    For your first cycle you should run just one compound, see how your body reacts to it. there is plenty of time to add in later cycles. I suggest started with a single ester test like enanthate or cyp, less injections and more consistant. If you don't already have the gear look into test e for 12 weeks at 500 mg/week

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    Im no expert, but I also agree
    keep it simple the 1st time. I had
    great gains with just cyp @ 400/wk.
    Cant go wrong with test only..IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by New Juice
    For your first cycle you should run just one compound, see how your body reacts to it. there is plenty of time to add in later cycles. I suggest started with a single ester test like enanthate or cyp, less injections and more consistant. If you don't already have the gear look into test e for 12 weeks at 500 mg/week
    Well put, I agree.

    No need to run 2 compounds for a first cycle. It will only complicate things.

    Deca also, due to its long acting ester, Deconate, needs to be run for no less than 12 weeks IMHO. It takes many weeks for it to fully kick in and to attain peaked blood plasma concentrations.

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    Yea.. I wanted to do Test E only 500mg/week but I cant get it Only thing im able to get is sust 250. Oh well..Ill keep looking then..

    How about my other question about having a kid some day..and if steroids will have any effect on it ?
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by UberSteroids
    How about my other question about having a kid some day..and if steroids will have any effect on it ?
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    Depends on if you go completley overboard and really abuse it through addiction.

    Your comment that you only want to do one is interesting. My advice is not to do one, if that's all you want to do. It is addictive in many ways. The test has positive mental effects, the success in the gym is also nice. Coming off, if you lose that edge it can be a little depressing.

    If your plan is to only do one cycle....skip it. No one ever does just one. That is the truth.

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    Hmm.. So as long as Ill do my cycles the right way and wont go crazy .. then I can do even 10 cycles and then have a kid..and it will be totally fine ?

    Well... I think all I need is one cycle to look pretty damn good.. I mean im in good shape as it is.. I just want more muscle.. get bigger then now, stronger... so You are saying that I will get addicted to it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UberSteroids
    Hmm.. So as long as Ill do my cycles the right way and wont go crazy .. then I can do even 10 cycles and then have a kid..and it will be totally fine ?

    Well... I think all I need is one cycle to look pretty damn good.. I mean im in good shape as it is.. I just want more muscle.. get bigger then now, stronger... so You are saying that I will get addicted to it ?
    I am saying if you do one, there will be a second, a third, etc.. I would not call that an addiction. An addiction would be something to the point where it does cause health, relationship, employment, or money problems. I am not suggesting that.

    If you want to be safe about using steroids, it implies more than one cycle. A first cycle should be one compound, a second you can add another, 3rd, another. That is if you are smart about it and want to know how your body reacts to each one. No one else will have the exact same experience as you.

    If you are in great shape, you could continue to work hard naturally and put on a solid pound or two of muscle each month through diet and workout. Why play the game and say only one, when if you are smart your will try test by itself first, then you will wonder, what would deca have done for me, and try a second.

    That is all I am saying. Unless you go crazy on steroids, and don't do proper PCT or time off, you sperm count should make a good recovery as well as your natural test.

    I will assume you are being honest about your goals. If you want say 15 more pounds of muscle out of this cycle (put on 20, keep 15) and then you will be fine and walk away. That's what you are saying? Then why get involved in it (it being drugs, many drugs, even a first cycle you will have test, nolva, clomid minimum to be safe, 3 drugs) for 15 lbs in 3 months. Just bang it out naturally and stay away from the drugs and the possibility that 3 years from now you may be on your 6th cycle. (not addicted but enjoying it enough that you keep experimenting).

    I am not anti-steroids. I am trying to share info with you ,and when you say you will do one and walk away forever, I am telling you that does not happen 99.9% of the time. You will like that extra muscle, then you will either want to try another drug, or you will have a bad cold, lose all your hard earned cycle muscle, and want to get it back.
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    Hmm. You are a smart guy. It really mekes me ... reconsider all of it. The reason why I want to do it.. is because.. after my cutting diet when I lost 23 Lbs in month and a half I got more ripped.. but kind of ..smaller..and in some exercises weaker a bit ( less calorie intake ). Then I go to the gym as always..and I see some of those huge guys.. that everybody looks at.. I want to be one of them You know what I mean ? I want to go on vacation and take my shirt of.. and I want to get that attention, were all different..some like it..some dont..well I do like attention. And I know side effects happen, I know that I have to take 3 more drugs in this cycle..I want to impress people.. I want to impress my girlfriend.. even that she says that she loves me the way I am and that I look good.. STILL... I want to do it.. when Im trying not to do it.. after about 3 or so months..it comes back.. I want to do it.. and let me tell You each time it comes back I am getting closer and closer of doing it... this time.. I got so close that I found %100 source. So I think its just me ego...my personality.
    Ahh.. I know if I will let it go now.. it will come back soon..and I will be here again...posting about my first cycle. Talking about addiction..I didnt even take it yet..
    You are a smart guy..

    Thank a lot..

    -Lucas

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    You are not alone, I have had the same thoughts. As long as you do things in moderation, get blood tests to make sure you fully recover, etc., you should be ok. I do a cycle every spring, and have done some short ones in the fall to try something new. I always say, this will be my last one.

    If I am safe about how I use it and I am off about 7-8 months a year then I see no problem health wise. But then I think, well what if my package busts open at the post office, what am I going to tell my employer if I get arrested. What if I get convicted and I have to find a new job. What if a family member that stays over finds my needles or drugs? What if an uninformed girl friend were to turn me in or tell my family if she found something?

    There are many more risks than just the health risks. If you can find a way to be happy the way you are you avoid all of that stuff then do it. I am still struggling with it myself.

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    Yeah thats right. Its me that wants to do it..and then there is everybody else that I know that says NO, including my girlfriend..of course..and family. But I dont think there is a way to hide it %100.. I mean.. my girlfriend and friends are not dumb.. if I will gain a lot in such short period of time... they will know it.. especially when I already tried to do it.. honest way and tell them... so they know what my thoughts are about steroids.
    I will think about it..but .. there is always BUT.. I really want to try it.
    Let me ask YOu.. Are You happy that You did it ? Are You satisfied with gains ? Do You regret it in any way ?
    Also.. who can do the shot for me ? So far I found one person.. my friends mom.. she can keep the secret, but he cant

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