need cycle help!!!!

[ShakeDatMonKey]

well heres the question..again like in another post this is a question for a buddy of mine..i tried convincing him to sign up here but he doesnt want to he just wants me to tell him everything cus he thinks im an expert...anyways..he plays college football and has never done a cycle before...hes actually a jc transfer and looking to get a nice scholarship and do well at the upcoming combine tests...so he wants to start a cycle now...what do you recommend for him so that he will increase strength, speed, endurance and will put alittle size on him??hes done everything natural his whole life and has kinda peaked and needs an edge...anybody got any suggestions??

[ShakeDatMonKey]

bump

[viperbin]

if ur an expert why dnt u tell him ahah

heres wat i took my first cycle and it worked ****in awsome ... got super super cut and got tons of muscle... one big acne thing on my back for the last week, but was no big deal

test en. 800mgper we
deca 400mg per week
dbol 50mg a day
and then i ran winny at the end slowly increasing my dose

[ShakeDatMonKey]

the thing is i have alot of test prop so i was just thinking of having him take that...at like 500mg per week..i also have winny so i was thinkin of that also..but how benificial would test and winny be to a guy trying to gain for football terms...??anyone??

[mickdiesel]

8- weeks

1-8 500mg/wk prop
1-4 40-50mg/ed var
4-8 50mg/ed winny (or just keep var, var will be better for strength and hardness, winny will keep him hard but dry him out and be hard on the joints)

make sure he takes liver cleaners and drinks at least a gallon of water and thatll make him a soldier

[mickdiesel]

made me a soldier at least, im 5'7" 228lbs. granted im propb about 11 or 12% bf but im not competing, run a 4.67 40 yard, i smash people and look fine on the beach

[ShakeDatMonKey]

anyone else have any suggestions...i was thinkin 10 weeks prop at 500mg then 5 weeks winny at 50mg ed

[ShakeDatMonKey]

bump

[Daddy Fatsacks]

Winny is too bad on the joints for a football player to use IMHO. If he uses it, he will have some major pain in the future. I'm not very active outside of my workouts and cardio, yet i still hurt like a mofo from previous winny use.

[ShakeDatMonKey]

then what do u think he should take for football then

[Daddy Fatsacks]

If he's never cycled before...i wouldn't recommend anything other than some form of of test. It's never good to introduce more than one unknown substance to the body like that. It's best to try them one at a time, so you'll know how your body is gonna react to each one.

[Kale]

What are his stats and how old is he