Would it be effective to use a small amout of deca through my cycle? I was thinking 100mgs a week for 12 weeks. Need some feedback.
Would it be effective to use a small amout of deca through my cycle? I was thinking 100mgs a week for 12 weeks. Need some feedback.
just wondering what the purpose of this would be ?
Last edited by stocky121; 03-03-2006 at 10:03 AM. Reason: because i posted twice
the only benifits you would get i would think at that dose would be slight lubrication of the joints,but i would say even that would be minimul!
it would shut you down though.
The purpose is for joint lube. Would it shut me down bad, here is the Cycle Im going for:
Test e 1-12
EQ 1-12
Var 5-12
Tren 5-12
With proper PCT weeks 12-14 Nov Clom
Any suggustions
sorry ment PCT 12-16
i think 100mg would be ok for joint lube not enough for muscle building
also i would stop the tren and deca at week 12
run the eq to week 13
and run the test to week 14
i hope your taking 200mg of vit b6 ED also
Originally Posted by Mr.UA
Nandrolones are hard on the bodys HPTA so your gonna be shut down by even 100mgs/week. Even though , you will be shutdown from the test e aswell, might aswell run 400mgs/week to get some benefits out of it.
Please let me know how th 200mg of B6 will help.
also should I start PCT on week 14 or 15 instead of 12?
Originally Posted by booz
He is gonna be shut down anyway.......I would add the deca. Afterall, it is the wonder drug!!!![]()
The water retention from the deca and test is whats gonna "lube" your joints.
Originally Posted by Mr.UA
vit b6 will help keep you prolactin levels down that you will get of deca and tren
What does HPTA stand for?
Should I do the deca from the start or put it in at wk 3 or 4?
Run an AI and combat prgesterone related sides effects more effectively than running some Vit-B6. Vit-B6 will help but wont stop the issue completely.
"AI " ? ? Please inform me.
Aramotase Inhibitor.
What kind of AI should I run
Originally Posted by Mr.UA
what dosage of tren will you be running ???
50-75 ed, whats your oppinion
Originally Posted by Mr.UA
i used tren at 525mg ew so 75mg ed with vit b6 at 200mg ed and i never needed to use a AI the b6 was more than enough for me
agree with ya stock i have run i have run high doseages and have never needed a AI,would always keep at hand though!Originally Posted by stocky121
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Vit-B6 at 100-200mg/ED should suffice.Originally Posted by Mr.UA
I ran deca at 100mg per week on my last cycle for that exact purpose, to help my joints. While I did not get the full benefit that I would get on a higher dose, it made my workouts better at that dose, so I felt I got more benefit from the test I was running.
And yes, that small amount will definitely shut you down!
Small doses of Deca are still extremly suppressive. I think thats a factor one has to take into account when running a Progestin. One single 100mg shot of Deca has been known to completely lead to HPTA shutdown, before returning to basline in 2-3 weeks.Originally Posted by BigJohnE
But, if Deca is run with a suppressive androgen, that will lead to total testicular inhibition, thats irrelavant, as suppression will already be evident, as stated above.
A low dose of HCG every 3-5 days will help greatly reducing/preventing HPTA shutdown, run throughout the cycle.
Im going to run:
test enth 500/wk 1-16
eq 600/wk 1-15 (frontload 1200/800 week 1 and 2)
var 50mg/day 10-16
i wanted to do deca but i did a deca only cycle (inexperienced) and learned when i got gyno. I also thought about adding it to this cycle but the eq is supposed to help you if you run it long enough. How can you not know what an AI is? Research the anciliiaries you run during a cycle to prevent estro side like gyno: Letro, Arimidex, Femera, Aromasin, Nolvadex etc.
Always have nolva on hand in case you have a problem like sore nipples.
I have never tried tren or deca which cause a different type of gyno in some people (progeterone related gyno?) because i am worried even though i want to try tren.
Never heard b6 could help? i always thought it would have to be letro and nolva or dostinex (cant wait to try that).
good luck!
Nolva can increase the chances of progesterone related gyno, so its not advised to use it in conjuction with a Progestin.Originally Posted by k6jatu37
How does that work? I had not heard that before. Explain the physiology behind it, if possible.Originally Posted by Swifto
Originally Posted by Swifto
i never new that either i was running nolva 20mg ed along with tren 75mg ed
and had no problem.
i was also taking 200mg vit b6 ed and other steroid's not just tren
Ive never heard of that, any literature to support it?Nolva can increase the chances of progesterone related gyno, so its not advised to use it in conjuction with a Progestin.
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