help with first cycle

[sonicbluecoupe]

for my first cycle, i got deca , sust250, dbol , clomid, nolva. what is the best injection site, can they be mixed, what size needle should i use, and any other info you might add... thanks alot guys

[mkrulic]

it's better to run a single ester test for your first cycle but if you already have it then make do w/ what you got.
sust 500mg/week
deca 300mg/week
d-bol 6 tabs a day (4-6 weeks)

The duration of time to run the sust and deca is up to you. I run them for 6 to 7 weeks w/ great results. I don't believe in long cycles. whatever you decide run the test for at least a week longer than everything else. 25 gauge 1" needles are good for everything. glutes and shoulders are good places to hit. rotate the shots, don't hit the same spot twice in one week. good luck

[Chookster]

i think you should hold on to what you have and just run a single ester test like test e 400 mgs a week for 10 weeks to see how you react to juice. you can build up your next cycle from there. good luck bro

[velvetlion]

i think you should hold on to what you have and just run a single ester test like test e 400 mgs a week for 10 weeks to see how you react to juice. you can build up your next cycle from there. good luck bro

I agree. That is a lot of different compounds to be running for a first cycle. It will be hard to tell which does what to you.

[goalseeker]

do some more research first....

[hosam4ever]

stats & training experience b4 any advice

[Daddy Fatsacks]

Do yourself a favor and listen to everyone else...don't take all that at once.
You should only introduce one new substance to the body at a time. Some form of test is what most people start with.

[muscle_20]

this exact question has been asked hundreds of times,use the search button and you will have answers will be faster.

[The OutLord]

it's better to run a single ester test for your first cycle but if you already have it then make do w/ what you got.
sust 500mg/week
deca 300mg/week
d-bol 6 tabs a day (4-6 weeks)

I agree strong... one singel Ester.. Like 50mg Dbol or Testocap ore something
To get a teaching flavour in what AAS realy is.

But do you realy recommend 800mg
and affter 4 - 6 week he go for 1010mg a week!!

He is a beginner !!.

[sonicbluecoupe]

thanks for the advice guys. so you think i would start off with some great results just using my 50mg dbol tabs for a while? how much each day and for how long? would any pct be needed? HOSAM4EVER- I am 22 and have been working out for about 7 years. i have hardly any body fat and i am 5'8" 150 lbs. i work out strong about every other day, and i eat fairly healthy, lots of protein.

[sp9]

No, DBOL only is a horrible first cycle.

DBOL is best as a kickstart for long estered injectable steroids .

A standard 1st cycle is 400-500 mg of test per week for 10 to 12 weeks. That's it. Save the dbo for later.

PCT would be needed. Nolva and clomid needed. Enough Nolva to run the whole time.

I would think you should wait before you start. Give is a couple of months to research here, and try to put on another 10lbs naturally.

[sonicbluecoupe]

so the sust 250 wouldnt be a good starter? i have been told so many things from so many poeple, that reasearching is just confusing me more! i was told to start my cycle with
wk 1 250mg sust 250 40mg dbol 2x/day deca 200mg
2 250mg 40mg 2/day 300mg
3 250 40 2x/day 300
4 250 40 2x/day 400mg
5 250 30 2x/ day 400
6 250 20 2x/day 400
7 250 ----- 300
8 250 ------ 200

all while taking 10mg nolva/day and 50mg clomid every other day for last 2 weeks. poeple on diff forums, friends and others tell me different opinions.. can you give me a heads up exactlly what to do with what i have. i cant get another natural 10 lbs unless its fat. thanks bros

[sonicbluecoupe]

i have 20ml sust 250
20ml deca 200mg
100x 50mg dbol tabs
50x 20mg nolva
50x 50mg clomid

[sp9]

Like I said. Don't be in a rush. You are asking good questions. Just don't take the answers from this thread. Go search for other threads There are thousands on first cycles.

Sust is test.

You have enough to do 2ml per week for 10 weeks.

Sust should be injected at least every third day. I have never used it so I can not tell you when to start PCT when you stop, but there are threads on that as well.

Take a couple of weeks and look around. You have what you need, so that worry is over, just take time to look around before you take the step of injecting.

DBOL and Deca - put to the side and use them in another cycle.

[sonicbluecoupe]

so 1ml every 3rd day, and probably 25 guage, 1in needles? or were you saying maybe 2ml every 3rd day. can you give me some info on drawing them from the vile. i searched and didnt pull up much up.

[sp9]

Never used vials. You need to talk to someone that has used sust before about the timing and dose amounts. I am hoping you wait b4 you start for a while. I researched here 18 months after I signed up before I started. You can at least wait a couple of weeks to make sure you are doing it right.

[sonicbluecoupe]

no reason i wont wait. i spent a great deal of money on this and i want awesome results. i just wish i had somebody say "hey, this is what you have, this is what you should take, ...." i just cant get the same info from everyone. im sorry i cant explain what im trying to say. i mean , the whole reason i got what i did was becasue somebody like you told me this was a good cycle for starters. i already have alot of muscle, i just want a little bit more, i wish i wasnt confusing you! lol im sorry.. i guess i cant say somebody like you because i have no idea which of you guys have the best answer. im lost

[sp9]

You are not confusing me. I just have never used test-sust b4, only test-enan and test-cyp. I don't want to give advice on something I have not used before.

Keep seaching other threads. Look through the educational forum to. Someone will help you out.

[greengenie1234]

sust sucks for a first cycle u will get much better results with test e or cyp