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    Anyone else notice this about different esters?

    I've done a good amount of cycles in the past few years and have noticed a few things.

    I react very well to longer ester compounds as far as side effects go. If I take anything that is fast acting, it seems that my body does not react well to it or does not have enough time to adjust. I can take deca /eq/test e with minimal side effects. If I take something like drol, dbol , halo, I just get a bad reaction to it anymore and get really bad sides. I used to be able to take dbol and the only sides I would get were bad back pumps. Now if I take dbol, I feel somewhat sick, lethargec, can't breath well and this happens within the first week. I've had to quit many dbol cycles in the past due to the sides and that sucks cause I really like dbol for a kick start. I won't take any pills again cause they effect me to negatively.

    I noticed this trend with my current cycle. I did tren a and just felt like crap 90% of the time. I was tired all the time, missed alot of workouts, I felt like I had the flu most of the time. It wasn't worth it. I tuffed it out and will be done with this cycle tomorrow. I think that if I would have done tren depot, I would have been able to deal with the side effects better. The stuff I used was BD, so it's not like it was junk.

    I was just wondering, did anyone else notice this about the fast acting compounds or am I on the wrong track here thinking this?

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    How often are you taking the fast acting esters such as prop. and tren ? If you are taking them EOD, you may want to try taking them ED to create more stable blood levels. What about the d bol or drol? Do you take it just once a day or throughout the day? That could be another problem.

    Some people react different to different compounds. I know people that have problems with tren giving them the same sides as you get. It is up to you. Is the risk worth the reward? If it was me, I would stick with things that don't give me those problems, and do what you are doing and ask. Maybe there is something you can do about the problems.

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    The tren I ran ed for that reason and the dbol I tried both ways. Still, same effect. I used to be able to run any pills before with no problem. Now, it seems that my body does not have enough time to adjust for some reason. I am getting older so maybe that has something to do with it. I will stick with the slower compounds from here on though. Just wanted to know if anyone else noticed this effect.

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    i have noticed this as well. usually when to much of the short ester is injected at once. there is a way to avoid this problem though. start a cycle with long acting test-e or c. wait a few weeks till you feel it kicking in. enjoy the pump for a few days then add a little prop into the mix. for example say you are injecting 2cc of test-e eod. add .5cc of prop in about week 4. wait till you feel the second wave. keep the prop dose low till test flu subsides. after a couple weeks, bump the prop dose up to 1cc. now u will b injecting 3CCs. now start to reduce the test-e and replace it with prop. so u might inject 1.5cc test-e and 1.5cc test-p. at this point getting close to the end of the cycle its time to add some orals. maybe a couple dbols or drols. this should boost everything up to a nice finally. i dont kick start a cycle anymore since that just messes up the liver at a time when u need it to be clean. this method also works with tren . start with the tren-e and start adding a little tren-a each time. a nice ready ject would have 1cc test-e, .5cc test-p, 1cc tren-e, .5cc tren-a. mmmmmmmm, my mouth is watering...

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    I am the exact opposite... I m running 130mg of prop ed and 120mg of tren -a ed.... my sides are almost non-existent... I sleep like a baby, I have 1 maybe 2 pimples on my whole body and the strength gains have been incredible.. as well as the hard, dry muscle I have put on..... The only downside for me has been ed injections... starting week 8 and I feel like a pin cushion...

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