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05-31-2002, 05:46 PM #1
Fina Converting
Alright here is the deal, I ordered a 4g fin kit from finakits.com but I only got 1 finacart. I should still be able to convert if I only use half of the oil right? Well I guess my question is, how much would exactly half be. in ml?? Hopefully some one can help me out with this.
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05-31-2002, 06:00 PM #2
im pretty sure 20ml
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05-31-2002, 06:21 PM #3
Well, yes it WOULD work with half the oil but you'll have twice the BA. Ouch is all I can say:-).
DMX
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05-31-2002, 06:33 PM #4
What is Half the oil in ML?? 20 22 25 ???
just looking for some good advice.
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05-31-2002, 07:03 PM #5
DMX is right bro, you're going to be making very painful injections. I believe you are going to be making anywhere from 40-44ml with that kit. So half that would be 20-22ml. I don't always get exactly the same ml when I convert. Why not just buy another finaplix h and make the entire kit?
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05-31-2002, 07:13 PM #6
becuase I allready disolved the fina. I didnt relize that I needed two carts until it was too late...
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05-31-2002, 07:21 PM #7
so you dissolved one cart into the solution that was meant for 2 carts?
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05-31-2002, 07:22 PM #8
If that is the case, i would get another cart and just add it to the dissolving liquid as well
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05-31-2002, 07:39 PM #9
You might as well bump up your dosage to 2cc ED or EOD, 2ccs should end up being ~75mg.
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05-31-2002, 07:45 PM #10
yup, that would work too...but i would still just add another cart
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06-01-2002, 12:13 AM #11
Well I converted the fina with only 24cc's of oil with all the BA from the 4gram kit..Hopefully it wont be too pain full..I pulled the extra oil out and put it in a siringe. There was 24cc's left..so my thinking is that if it is way to pain full then i may be able to dillute it.
Do you allways get a little bit of glue(were you cant get it out) at the bottom of the vile, were you mixed the oil and fina?
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06-01-2002, 10:19 AM #12
yeah there is always some glue in the bottles. Your shots are going to be painful bro, there is a VERY high alcohol content in it.
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06-01-2002, 01:52 PM #13Associate Member
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Your shots are gonna be painrul. You shold have either cut the BA in half along with the oil before dissolving the pellets or gotten the 2nd fina cartridge to add to the Ba.
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06-01-2002, 01:54 PM #14
Yes you will have glue PRE FILTERING! I hope you filtered. If my instructions were not clear let me know what I screwed up so I can re-word them!
DMX
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06-01-2002, 07:12 PM #15
No, I think I got them..I finished today, whta I ment was the in the first vile(1), the one that had the BA..and then added fina..and then when you pure from that vile into the filtered vile (2) you cant get every thing out of (1) because there is still some glue at the bottom..Just making sure this is right...I did add just a little more oil like 30cc so it should be a little dilluted, I will prob, just inject like 1.5 cc.. that should get me close to a 75mg, I would think.. Other than that every thing when allright, I havent had time to bake it yet though, wich I dont think that you would have to do right away. But I really feel like maybe I should filter it one more time with a new whatman?? what do you think?
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06-02-2002, 12:41 AM #16
Well, you were supposed to dump the oil vial into the BA vial, that would have eliminated that problem.
DMX
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06-02-2002, 10:55 AM #17Associate Member
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is it safe(legal) to order from finakits?
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06-02-2002, 11:34 AM #18
I did....They dont sell fina..Just the conversion kit(s).
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06-02-2002, 01:25 PM #19
Your wrong about the painful injections I see that most of you haven't bought the kits from Chem. Because you would know that it's the same amount of solution! Around 3mls. in both kits. And I've converted with both. No problems with either. Just when converting 2 carts, I suggest that you crush the pellets... It speeds up the process tremendously.
Btw, there is no need to convert with any more than 4 mls of solution with either2 to 4 gm kits... That is why other kits have such a problem with painful injections.
Hell, I made some with 1/3 less oil than what came with the kit and still painless injects.
Bro you keep PMing me and I'll walk you through this.
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06-02-2002, 01:27 PM #20
hey basskiller is that you in the pic??? your a hotty!!!
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06-02-2002, 01:27 PM #21
This is for 1..cartridge of finaplix -h and 1... 2gm kit
With a 3% loss of product in the conversion
If you do everything correctly the Oil(mls) to mg strenth would be as follows.
If you were to use only "X" amount of oil, you will have your fina at "X" strength
10ml = 194mg/ml
11ml = 176mg/ml
12ml = 161mg/ml
13ml = 149mg/ml
14ml = 138mg/ml
15ml = 129mg/ml
16ml = 121mg/ml
17ml = 114mg/ml
18ml = 107mg/ml
19ml = 102mg/ml
20ml = 97mg/ml
21ml = 92mg/ml
22ml = 88mg/ml
23ml = 84mg/ml
24ml = 80mg/ml
25ml = 77mg/ml
A word of caution. Some kits have 5mls of magic solution (this is the main factor of pain) and some only have 3mls.
So most people that have tried to convert a higher mg product just take out the oil.
This raises the ratio of "solution to oil" mixture....Which causes the more painful injections.
A better way to raise it would be to add more pellets to a 2gm kit
I"ll do an experiment to see how much can be converted in 3mls on "magic solution"..
and report on it with numbers.
So unless you know and understand the ins and outs of this,
Just stick with converting with all the product(finaplix pellets), oil and magic solution.
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This is for 2..cartridge2 of finaplix-h and 1... 4gm kit
With a 3% loss of product in the conversion
If you do everything correctly the
Oil(mls) to mg strenth would be as follows.
35ml = 110mg/ml
36ml = 108mg/ml
37ml = 104mg/ml
38ml = 102mg/ml
39ml = 99mg/ml
40ml = 97mg/ml
41ml = 95mg/ml
42ml = 92mg/ml
43ml = 90mg/ml
44ml = 88mg/ml
45ml = 86mg/ml
46ml = 84mg/ml
47ml = 82mg/ml
48ml = 80mg/ml
49ml = 79mg/ml
50ml = 77mg/ml
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06-02-2002, 01:30 PM #22
one alst thing.. if you heat the soulation before you drop in into the coffee fliter it will drain alot and i mean alot faster...
gear101
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06-02-2002, 02:01 PM #23Originally posted by Gear101
hey basskiller is that you in the pic??? your a hotty!!!
Yea baby you want a date LMFAO
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06-02-2002, 03:37 PM #24Associate Member
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i want one
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