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    Critique cycle please

    Just thought I'd repost this as my last thread isnt getting any attention.
    This is my second cycle. I'm 5'10'' and 195lb 23 years old roughly 14% BF.
    d-bol 30mg ed weeks 1 to 4
    Test enth 500mg a week weeks 1 to 10 (500mg first day as a front load)
    20mg nolva weeks 1 to 12
    1000mg of milk thistle weeks 1 to 4
    PCT of nolva and clomid weeks 12 to 16
    I also want to run clen at the end of this cycle but I don't know how to dose/run clen.
    From this cycle I want more mass and more definition. If I could achieve 200lb at 10% BF after this cycle I'd be very happy.
    I did consider EQ or deca but I don't want the puffy look deca will give throughout summer and I've been told EQ won't be very effective until I drop some BF.
    Cheers bros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanlgd
    Just thought I'd repost this as my last thread isnt getting any attention.
    This is my second cycle. I'm 5'10'' and 195lb 23 years old roughly 14% BF.
    d-bol 30mg ed weeks 1 to 4
    Test enth 500mg a week weeks 1 to 10 (500mg first day as a front load)
    I don't think you need to shoot 500mg on the first day. For the first 4 weeks your blood levels are building. I can see where you'd think it has merit, but I personally would just run the dbol for 4 weeks and call it good, and keep with the regular schedule of shots for the remainder of the cycle.
    Quote Originally Posted by nathanlgd
    20mg nolva weeks 1 to 12
    I would run the nolva at 10mg throughout the cycle then bump it to 20mg begining PCT.
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    1000mg of milk thistle weeks 1 to 4
    I would run it thorughout the cycle or at least to weeks 6. I like to keep my liver as clean as possible while on a cycle even when I'm not taking orals. That's more personal preference though.
    Quote Originally Posted by nathanlgd
    PCT of nolva and clomid weeks 12 to 16
    Looks good, but I think you'd be fine with running nolva only. Run a search on it and you'll find some very interesting articles about it.
    Quote Originally Posted by nathanlgd
    I also want to run clen at the end of this cycle but I don't know how to dose/run clen.
    Begin with 20mcg for a few days and increase it by 20mcg every few days until sides are too much. I wouldn't go over 120mcg, although you might hear some say otherwise, I feel it's best to keep things like clen at a lower dose until you feel comfortable running a higher dose. Too much clen and you'll be shakin' like a polaroid picture.
    Quote Originally Posted by nathanlgd
    From this cycle I want more mass and more definition. If I could achieve 200lb at 10% BF after this cycle I'd be very happy.
    You can/will definitley get to 200 with this cycle. As for the look you're trying to get that might be another thing. Currently I switch weekly from .25mg ldex to 10mg nolva and 25mg proviron . It's working rather nicely. Remember you've got two drugs that both readily aromatize into estrogen so you'll need some AI and/or SERM to keep the water weight off so you'll get the desired look.
    Quote Originally Posted by nathanlgd
    I did consider EQ or deca but I don't want the puffy look deca will give throughout summer and I've been told EQ won't be very effective until I drop some BF.
    Cheers bros.
    So, how about befoe you even begin your cycle you get your diet and cardio in check so when you begin your cycle you'll be lean enough to see results from the EQ. Remember though, if you cut before you begin your cycle you'll be leaner and lighter then you are now which will mean you'll need to put on more lean mass to get to 200 and the BF% you want.

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    every thing has been said...what a great reply odco717

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    Yeah thanks very much, thats the best reply I've probably ever had on here
    Cheers

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    awesome reply....questions though EQ should be taken at low BF%?

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    Oh, just a couple of things about the clen - whens the best time to start it? and how long can I run it for (safely)?
    Cheers

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