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    Question Tongkat Ali Question

    I got my Tongkat Ali this morning in the mail.

    I am currently on a cycle of Test (600 mg/week), Deca (500 mgs/week). Had limp dick problems, so ordered some Tongkat anyway (6 weeks into the cycle, up 20 Lbs) - if anything just to keep shrinkage down. My nuts felt like they had shrunk the last week or so. Id never get the "hanging" effect at all (which I assumed is down to some shrinkage).

    I took two caps of TA this morning and two in the afternoon. My testicles already feel fuller and bigger. Unless I am hallucinating, this stuff has kicked in already? Does it work this fast?

    How long can I keep taking it? Should I stop taking it when I start my PCT (still 6 weeks off)? Also, does anyone use Tongkat when not on gear (for improved libido) etc?

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    I would get some HCG for on cycle and leave the tongkat for pct

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    yes tongkat works that fast. Its great!

    but save it for PCT.

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    if you dont mind me asking where did you get it from you can pm me if you dont wanna say in the thread thanks!

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    All it did for me was energy.

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    Actually, tongkat ali can be considered the herbal equivalent to HCG . It acts as a LH analogue just like HCG, meaning that it is suppressive to natural LH.
    It should therefore not be taken during pct as you want to increase natural LH at this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyByU
    Actually, tongkat ali can be considered the herbal equivalent to HCG . It acts as a LH analogue just like HCG, meaning that it is suppressive to natural LH.
    It should therefore not be taken during pct as you want to increase natural LH at this time.
    great info, wish there were some studies I could read that says that same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chest6
    I would get some HCG for on cycle and leave the tongkat for pct
    Thats what I would do

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    Here's one reference to a study on tongkat ali - pm me for that info man..

    Tongkat seems have a couple of useful properties - it acts like LH to increase testosterone and it also lowers SHBG incresing free test. How suppressive it is is unknown - when I've used it during PCT, I didn't notice much of an effect when I stopped taking it.
    Last edited by spywizard; 03-05-2006 at 08:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maetenloch
    Here's one reference to a study on tongkat ali - pm me for that info man..

    Tongkat seems have a couple of useful properties - it acts like LH to increase testosterone and it also lowers SHBG incresing free test. How suppressive it is is unknown - when I've used it during PCT, I didn't notice much of an effect when I stopped taking it.
    Why not post it for others
    to read as well, couldnt hurt.
    Im interested,could never
    read enough.

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    ohh..got it.

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    TA helped me alot during my last PCT, and it does work fast (w/in hours). It's great for reviving "the boys."

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS1476
    Thats what I would do
    Well if TA has the same effect as HCG , why not use it to avoid shrinkage while on cycle and then stick with Clomid, Nolva and Ldex/Proviron while off cycle? That's what I am thinking of doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGerman
    TA helped me alot during my last PCT, and it does work fast (w/in hours). It's great for reviving "the boys."
    Yeah this stuff is unbelievable. I never thought the "boys" could be brought back to size within a few hours. Amazing.

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    possibly...
    Im thinking of trying my next
    PCT w/out the clomid. Via the
    Nolvadex ,HCG ,Aromasin ,Vitamin E
    route.

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    Isn't HCG inhibitive of natural LH?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabigcheese
    Isn't HCG inhibitive of natural LH?
    Yes it is, and so is tongkat ali! Tongkat ali doesn't stimulate natural LH, it acts as a LH analogue. That's why it shouldn't be used post cycle!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyByU
    Yes it is, and so is tongkat ali! Tongkat ali doesn't stimulate natural LH, it acts as a LH analogue. That's why it shouldn't be used post cycle!
    That's what I thought too.

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