Is that shape natural (femelle) ???

[jessy]

I was looking at pictures of fitness model Allison Ethier, and she is so cut the day of the competition, i was wondering, if her shape was natural.

Her pic is in the bottom.

But here was she respond to it:

"FROM ALLISON:

Hi -

I appreciate all your comments concerning the 'naturalness' of my physique.

I can tell you that I am 100% completely natural. I would not even know who to go to in order to get stuff.

The last show I did last June I was the leanest I have ever been. (that is the first picture in this thread).
I wanted to see how 'in shape' I could get. I do quite a bit of cardio and am repremanded by many trainers out there who think my amount of cardio borders on insane (up to 2 hours a day interval training 8 week around 6-8 weeks out from a show). I ended up being too lean for the judges - I got first in routine and was 9th in physique (the FAP shows like them a little fuller).

My diet and training practices are listed on my site - and I do eat a natural clean diet with 1-2 cheats per week, even as close as 4 weeks before a show.

If you have any questions, love to hear from you.

Allison Ethier
www.allisonethier.com

[hardgainer12]

i dont know but she has a dude tummy! eeewww. Shes prob dry as a bag of dirt too! No water at all in that girl

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Strict diet with duretics they work wonders before the comp

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[Stumbo]

I dont know the answer to your question.

but i think she is a hottie, when she isnt so cut...

[jessy]

I dont know the answer to your question.

but i think she is a hottie, when she isnt so cut...

yes like this:

[Farhan]

i doubt shes natural

[*Narkissos*]

a diet and cardio can do that yes... depends on the duration and the subject's adherence to the regime. I've seen some women get ultra shredded like that on diet and cardio.. It isn't easy.. but it's possible. I'd like to see her glutes and hams. That pic shows her midsection. Because women's fat deposits are distributed differently to men it's possible for her midsection to be that shredded and her legs to be 'soft' by comparison.

On a side note... that is not a pic of a 'normal woman' (i.e. the country club variety).. that's a competitor.. so it's unlikely that condition is the product of 'just cardio and diet'.

It's likely an anti-E + clen + t3 is in the mix...

~ Dr. Nark

[BigChris]

It can most definitely be done 'naturally'...a good diet and loads of well timed exercise can do it, but it will be so much harder.

I am sure that even competitors who claim to have done it 'naturally' most probably include something like ephedra or the ECA stack.

[Timm1704]

i have a friend who is like that naturally, he has done afew courses that have added some size ofcourse, but before he even touched juice, he was really ripped, the most shredded person ive ever seen in the flesh

[BigChris]

Genetics, genetics, genetics...

[magic32]

GIRL #1 is as chemically enhanced as Mr. Bain.

M.

[Swifto]

I'd hit it.

[Timm1704]

Genetics, genetics, genetics...

exactly. chances are at that level of competition, she will be using something, but some people could manage that without the aid of performance enhancing drugs IMO

[magic32]

exactly. chances are at that level of competition, she will be using something, but some people could manage that without the aid of performance enhancing drugs IMO

Good statement.
The question relating to the first part of it is "why not?". Why would a woman compete at the highest level, against the best in the world (who are using or are they all genetic marvels also) and NOT use chemicals?

• I owe it to my mom.
• Promised my brother.
• I can do it.

All crap, you go, you use. Next I'll here how great Ronnie is for not using and working his marvelous genetic potential.

M.

[Timm1704]

Good statement.
The question relating to the first part of it is "why not?". Why would a woman compete at the highest level, against the best in the world (who are using or are they all genetic marvels also) and NOT use chemicals?

• I owe it to my mom.
• Promised my brother.
• I can do it.

All crap, you go, you use. Next I'll here how great Ronnie is for not using and working his marvelous genetic potential.

M.

i say that 'chances are' bit instead of 'every competitor' just incase (lol) there is a competitor at that level who is natural. but, i have 100% confidence that every single competitor in this day and age are not completely natural. yes, genetics are a great thing to have, but genetics + drugs = even greater

[magic32]

i say that 'chances are' bit instead of 'every competitor' just incase (lol) there is a competitor at that level who is natural. but, i have 100% confidence that every single competitor in this day and age are not completely natural. yes, genetics are a great thing to have, but genetics + drugs = even greater

Well put.

i have 100% confidence that every single competitor in this day and age are not completely natural.

Notice I said at the highest level. You simply can't compete in a form based contest (where natural ability, intelligence and athleticism play no part - on stage) and hope to compare to the chemically enhanced (many of whom are former bb'ers) and SERIOUSLY compete.

M.

[heavyrotation92]

i would definately hit it in the second pic,

not the first though...

[Hard Head]

i would definately hit it in the second pic,

not the first though...

I'd hit it either way. She's still girly to me.

[brutesinme]

So hot

[tranzit]

a diet and cardio can do that yes... depends on the duration and the subject's adherence to the regime. I've seen some women get ultra shredded like that on diet and cardio.. It isn't easy.. but it's possible. I'd like to see her glutes and hams. That pic shows her midsection. Because women's fat deposits are distributed differently to men it's possible for her midsection to be that shredded and her legs to be 'soft' by comparison.

On a side note... that is not a pic of a 'normal woman' (i.e. the country club variety).. that's a competitor.. so it's unlikely that condition is the product of 'just cardio and diet'.

It's likely an anti-E + clen + t3 is in the mix...

~ Dr. Nark

Great post!

[tranzit]

P.s. Id beat that shit up like i hated it, In EITHER picture.

[Timm1704]

oh indeed in both pics i think she is rather fine, prefer the second tho, where you cant see what she ate that morning lol

[spywizard]

yea, can you see the virilization going on??

[notanormalgent]

ewww

[getnlarge18]

For those of you who say that she IS on aas, what are you basing this conclusion on?? YES, it IS possible to get cut naturally. It's a matter of discipline, experience and incredible genetics. There are many women who do it in figure competition. Allison competes in FAME, which is a natural organization...and it would not surprise me at ALL if she is 100% natural. I've known plenty of women who are...don't make assumptions about an athlete based on what YOU have done/ need to get yourself into competition shape. Check out Jodi Miller. She has a TON of experience under her belt. She eats clean year-round, trains her ass off, and reaps the benefits naturally. Oh, and for the record spywizard...virilization does NOT occur in every woman who uses aas. It's something that occurs with improper use or over an extended period of time. There are women who are "on"...who you'd NEVER suspect. Don't forget that when you're that lean, a woman's face also gets thinner, making her look more "masculine"...so what you're seeing isn't always virilization anyhow.

[djdjdjddjon]

I dont know the answer to your question.

but i think she is a hottie, when she isnt so cut...

no doubt! wow she is a cutie...!

[brutesinme]

she does NOT look masculine

[jessy]

For those of you who say that she IS on aas, what are you basing this conclusion on?? YES, it IS possible to get cut naturally. It's a matter of discipline, experience and incredible genetics. There are many women who do it in figure competition. Allison competes in FAME, which is a natural organization...and it would not surprise me at ALL if she is 100% natural. I've known plenty of women who are...don't make assumptions about an athlete based on what YOU have done/ need to get yourself into competition shape. Check out Jodi Miller. She has a TON of experience under her belt. She eats clean year-round, trains her ass off, and reaps the benefits naturally. Oh, and for the record spywizard...virilization does NOT occur in every woman who uses aas. It's something that occurs with improper use or over an extended period of time. There are women who are "on"...who you'd NEVER suspect. Don't forget that when you're that lean, a woman's face also gets thinner, making her look more "masculine"...so what you're seeing isn't always virilization anyhow.

So, you are telling us , then that girl is also natural ?

[topvega]

yea, can you see the virilization going on??

Yeah in that second pic she looks like she might be smuggling a baby vienna sausage in her pants....

[tranzit]

To answer the question of is she on somthing. I would say yes..two of the things i would bet she is using is Winstrol, and Slin. other that that who knows.. Primo? but the dry look she has is very tell tale of winny. And the vascular look screams Slin to me.

[getnlarge18]

To answer the question of is she on somthing. I would say yes..two of the things i would bet she is using is Winstrol, and Slin. other that that who knows.. Primo? but the dry look she has is very tell tale of winny. And the vascular look screams Slin to me.

That's awfully presumptuous. First of all, these pictures are always taken at competition time. Dry because of winny? Have you ever heard of water depletion...or of diuretics?? Vascular because of Slin? Vascularity comes from being LEAN...not necessarily from drugs. In fact, Allison is naturally fairly vascular to begin with...which is a genetic thing. Am I supposed to assume that every guy at the gym with a vein poking out is on drugs?? C'mon...

[judge_dread]

..I liked that part "FAME a natural organization.." lol
what is natural today? u mentioned diuretics, in case she use diuretics which are are drugs then SHE' S NOT 100% NATURAL
moreover I know a lot so called "natural bbers" and they use AAS but in smaller doses that's all!!!

[Timm1704]

..I liked that part "FAME a natural organization.." lol
what is natural today? u mentioned diuretics, in case she use diuretics which are are drugs then SHE' S NOT 100% NATURALmoreover I know a lot so called "natural bbers" and they use AAS but in smaller doses that's all!!!

my point exactly. i do not think she looks masculine, id say she is absolutely stunning, and i dont necessarily think she is on any AAS, genetics say she could look like that without any diuretics/slin etc, but chances are, if she is competing at a high standard, her competitors will be using drugs, so very unlikely that she wouldnt use them

[muscle_20]

she looks wickedly good!who can tell maybe she uses may be she doesnt......who cares any way!

[allycat]

Hi -

I appreciate all your comments concerning the 'naturalness' of my physique.

I can tell you that I am 100% completely natural. I would not even know who to go to in order to get stuff.

The last show I did last June I was the leanest I have ever been. (that is the first picture in this thread).
I wanted to see how 'in shape' I could get. I do quite a bit of cardio and am repremanded by many trainers out there who think my amount of cardio borders on insane (up to 2 hours a day interval training 8 week around 6-8 weeks out from a show). I ended up being too lean for the judges - I got first in routine and was 9th in physique (the FAP shows like them a little fuller).

My diet and training practices are listed on my site - and I do eat a natural clean diet with 1-2 cheats per week, even as close as 4 weeks before a show.

If you have any questions, love to hear from you.

Allison Ethier
www.allisonethier.com

[helium3]

the above is achievable for a women she isnt that muscular(no flame,but compaired to women that juice)my sister-in-law looks like that and she dont train at all,5% bf.by the way you great imho..

[1819]

Hi -

I appreciate all your comments concerning the 'naturalness' of my physique.

I can tell you that I am 100% completely natural. I would not even know who to go to in order to get stuff.

The last show I did last June I was the leanest I have ever been. (that is the first picture in this thread).
I wanted to see how 'in shape' I could get. I do quite a bit of cardio and am repremanded by many trainers out there who think my amount of cardio borders on insane (up to 2 hours a day interval training 8 week around 6-8 weeks out from a show). I ended up being too lean for the judges - I got first in routine and was 9th in physique (the FAP shows like them a little fuller).

My diet and training practices are listed on my site - and I do eat a natural clean diet with 1-2 cheats per week, even as close as 4 weeks before a show.

If you have any questions, love to hear from you.

Allison Ethier
www.allisonethier.com

well there ya go then...good work, bye the way.

[Myka]

Hi, its Allison

Your a very impressive young woman...hope you can find time to stay with our board

Peace...

[JR.SHRED]

You look great to me and i could give ashit if you take shit or not either way you worked hard for it, good work

[PLAYA4LIFE]

yo i thought tranzit was banned, anyways boot his a**. second of all she looks like she is on insulin you're a nut job tranzit.