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    Second cycle questions. Need experienced help!

    Hi guys, I'm new to this site and would like to get some good input/advise from some of the experienced people on this site. I will give a litle bit of history on my training and cycle experience. I'm 29 years old, 6'3 234lbs @ 13.8% bodyfat. I attended Boston College and played football their from 94-97. I did my first cycle after my second season at the age of 19. This first cycle consisted of 400mgs of Test Prop for 14 weeks and 40mgs a day of D-Bol for first 5 weeks of cycle. I was happy with the initial results, but looking back, I think I was a little too young for it. "Pressure from teamates, was the main concern!". However, I got back into the gym about a year and a half ago and gains are slowing down quite a bit.
    I'm going to be doing a cycle in another 5-6 weeks and wanted some advise on timing and application of PCT with the products that I have obtained.
    Here's what I have.

    3-10cc bottles of Test Cyp @ 200 mgs
    2-10cc bottles of EQ @ 200 mgs
    75-50mg tabs of Clomid
    15,000iu of HCG
    Also purchased 2 bottles of liquidex.
    I also can get as much Nolva as I need.

    My thought on this cycle was 400mgs of EQ and 400mgs of Test Cyp a week. I was thinking of running the Eq for 12 weeks and run the cyp along with it, but go another 2 weeks on the Cyp. Start PCT 10 days after last Test Cyp shot with Clomid @ 100mgs a day for 14 days and then cut back to 50mgs a day for another 14 days. While running Liquidex from 2 weeks before cycle starts, all the way thru the PCT phase. My questions are:1. When should I use the HCG and how much? 2. Am I on the right path as far as the Clomid dosages and start times/duration are concerned? 3. Will I also need Nolvadex /Liquidex throughout this whole cycle and post cycle? 4. Do I need to take all of this stuff I have for PCT use or just use the clomid and a little HCG? From the little knowledge that I have, I don't think this is a really heavy cycle. IS IT????

    Sorry this post was so long, but I wanted to give as much info as possible. Like everyone else, I would like to keep as much muscle as possible after going off this cycle.

    Thanks a lot guys, for any help!

    P.S. I understand that diet and sleep play a huge role in this whole process!! "I PLAN ON RUNNING THE CLEANEST DIET THAT I POSSIBLY CAN."
    Last edited by prmd1471; 03-08-2006 at 02:17 PM.

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    Aynone?

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    start your clomid 18 days after the last shot of cyp mate......

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    Quote Originally Posted by booz
    start your clomid 18 days after the last shot of cyp mate......
    I thought the half life of test cyp was 15 days?

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    pheednos pct start times

    Below you'll find starting times for your PCT based on the active life of each compound. The active life is the duration of time it takes for the exogenous hormone to be absorbed, utilized, and expelled; no longer being bioavailable. Keep in mind that active life is an approximation which is dependant on dose, ester, as well as the individuals metabolization of the compound ; but for the moderate user, these are as close to precise as you'll find.

    Anadrol /Anapolan: 24 hours after last administration
    Deca : 21 days after last injection
    Dianabol : 24 hours after last administration
    Equipoise : 21 days after last injection
    Fina: 3 days after last injection
    Primobolan depot: 14 days after last injection
    Sustanon : 18 days after last injection
    Testosterone Cypionate : 18 days after last injection
    Testosterone Enanthate : 14 days after last injection
    Testosterone Propionate : 3 days after last injection
    Testosterone Suspension : 24 hours after last administration
    Winstrol : 24 hours after last administration

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    Quote Originally Posted by majorpecs
    I thought the half life of test cyp was 15 days?
    Half life and active life are 2 different things. PCT starts after active life.

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    Any recommendations on the HCG ? How much, How often, and at what point in or after my cycle? Thanks

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    I have done 2 16 weeks cycles where I ran EQ for 15 and test e for 16. I did not need HCG at all.

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    check out the pct forum bro.. lots of valueable info in there for ya....

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