good input needed

[DBIsSaucy]

I'm 6'0 about 170-175 a little more body fat than i want but im workin on that. anyway im goona run a 10 week cycle of a test blend containing cypionate, decanoate and propionate at 300 mgs a week for my first cycle. i will also be using 10mgs of tamox a day.
sound good?
pct i have clomi and about 500mgs of tamox left to add to it.

[scotttiger54]

multi blend test may not be a good idea for a beginner, stick to a 1 esther compound. imo though, 300mg is not a bad dosage for a first timer. you would see some good results. also, do you know exactly how to run your pct?

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I'm 6'0 about 170-175 a little more body fat than i want but im workin on that. anyway im goona run a 10 week cycle of a test blend containing cypionate, decanoate and propionate at 300 mgs a week for my first cycle. i will also be using 10mgs of tamox a day.
sound good?
pct i have clomi and about 500mgs of tamox left to add to it.

How is your diet bro? I think to get a single ester is better than blend esters i think you have to do ed shots because of the prop what is the strength per ml of prop/decanoate/Cyp??

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[DBIsSaucy]

prop is only 50 the others are 125 and i already go the gear
feed back on mgs for pct with the clomi and tamox would be appreciated bros

[DBIsSaucy]

o yea diet is good, chicken worst thing i eat is subway and tuna and peanut butter ha

[velvetlion]

I'm 6'0 about 170-175 a little more body fat than i want but im workin on that. anyway im goona run a 10 week cycle of a test blend containing cypionate, decanoate and propionate at 300 mgs a week for my first cycle. i will also be using 10mgs of tamox a day.
sound good?
pct i have clomi and about 500mgs of tamox left to add to it.

With those stats, I wouldn't think that you are in need of a cycle yet. Sounds like your body could do some more growing with good diet and training.

But if you are dead set to do it, then that is your choice. I know that you already have it, but a blend isn't the best way for you to go. Your blood levels are going to be fluctuating all over the place. I would wait till you can get yourself a single estered test.

As for PCT. I would run 100mg. clomid/day and 20mg. Nolva/day for 4 weeks.

[DBIsSaucy]

i cant find the single ester so i have to use the blend although it isnt the best way to go, i knew it wasnt when i got it but it was all i could get, is it still ok to run tho with tamox at 10 mg a day and the pct as lion said

[DBIsSaucy]

^^^^^^

[velvetlion]

I don't normally run nolva in my cycles to begin with. I wait to see if I am having any problems before I might add it. Some will differ with this, and I am slightly starting to sway the other way, but not quite there yet.

[DBIsSaucy]

well i have a little gyno from puberty its not as bad as i think it is im sure because i need to drop my bodyfat a lil but just to be safe ya know dont need more!!! so the mix isnt what u would suggest but its ok right?

[DBIsSaucy]

bump

[velvetlion]

well i have a little gyno from puberty its not as bad as i think it is im sure because i need to drop my bodyfat a lil but just to be safe ya know dont need more!!! so the mix isnt what u would suggest but its ok right?

Not what I would suggest, but it will be ok, but your sides may increase because of the unstable blood levels unless you plan on shooting it EOD.

[DBIsSaucy]

sides as in gyno?

[D-Money]

I think that is a sufficient for a first cycle. It's important not to get caught up with the esters test is test, although prop is a little more painiful to inject. And 10mg of nolva would be a good idea, and will not drastically reduce your gains.

[DBIsSaucy]

im not excited the pain either way haha

[D-Money]

However I think you would be happier with your results if you waited to run this cycle and consintrated on your diet for a while, and reduce some of that stubborn fat first, and at 170 I think you could grow more naturally first.

[DBIsSaucy]

i think that ur right on about the fat and the growing, my body type is ectomorph and i have a hard time putting wait on because of it im only supposed to weigh about 150 or even less

[velvetlion]

I think that is a sufficient for a first cycle. It's important not to get caught up with the esters test is test, although prop is a little more painiful to inject. And 10mg of nolva would be a good idea, and will not drastically reduce your gains.

It is important to know what the different esters are for to keep blood levels stable. If you are taking three different esters, you need to know the half life on each. Yes, test base is test base, but when you throw in an ester you have to account for different things. You have to know what that ester weighs. Prop doesn't weigh as much as enanthate, therefore more test base/ml at the same doseage of test e. Test suspension holds no ester, therefore 100mg. test=100mg. test base, whereas test enanthate dosed at 100mg would only give you like 72mg. test base+28mg of ester weight.

[DBIsSaucy]

the mg of each type of test are listed up top more.... should i get rid of the little bit of fat before i start lion?

[velvetlion]

the mg of each type of test are listed up top more.... should i get rid of the little bit of fat before i start lion?

How much bodyfat are we talking? This can be a hard question to answer. OPTIMALLY you would like to start a cycle at a lower bodyfat. I can't say that I always stick to this, but I try. Test can help you burn some fat by helping you build more muscle which in turn will require more calories which can help you lose some fat.

Diet is a big part of how you will respond to any cycle. Like i said in my first post, if I was you, I would wait a little bit and try to put on a little more muscle naturally before you decide to start using AAS, but that is your decision.

[velvetlion]

the mg of each type of test are listed up top more.... should i get rid of the little bit of fat before i start lion?

Yes, the doseage is listed, but do you know how much actual test base that you are taking in. Do you know the weight of each of the esters?

This is getting a little more into things that many people don't pay attention to, but at times when you are trying to figure out correct doseages especially with test with 3 esters, it can make a big difference as to what your actual doseage of test is and the half life and keeping blood levels stable.

[DBIsSaucy]

thanks lion you opinion is greatly appreciated, i would say it like this i can see 2 abs the rest is covered by beer freshman year and i read up on the prop it only last 1-2 days so my first week i should dose it twice to let the other two set in and then just once a week

[DBIsSaucy]

in reality it said it isnt even needed after week one but its already in the mix

[velvetlion]

thanks lion you opinion is greatly appreciated, i would say it like this i can see 2 abs the rest is covered by beer freshman year and i read up on the prop it only last 1-2 days so my first week i should dose it twice to let the other two set in and then just once a week

This is where you will get the unstable blood levels. I would shoot it at least twice a week, but you will still have problems with the short ester in there.

Lets say you take it once a week. Once the cypionate and decanoate esters have completely got into your system and are being kept stable, you are going to throw in 50 extra mg. of test that will be out of your system in 2 or 3 days therefore causing blood levels to change once or twice per week. Unstable blood levels can cause more side effects. Also, you will benefit more from the testosterone if you don't go up to a higher doseage and then back down to a lower dose.

I know it may seem like a lot to take in, but are you catching some of what I am saying.

Now, at 300mg/week, sides for most wouldn't even be noticeable, but when you start getting into higher doseages they can start to be problamatic.

[DBIsSaucy]

i understand what u are saying about keeping the two normal and then once a week throwin 50 extra mg in there, but as u said im not at 700mg per weak and throwin an extra 125 mgs in once a week, i understand what your saying and ive learned a lot from ur previous posts
thank you

[PLAYA4LIFE]

lets see his stats before helping him any further. He shouldn't even think about taking steroids #1 if he is not ready and #2 if he has not done his research.

[DBIsSaucy]

my stsats are all there if u read and i know a lot more than i get credit for but thanks for the concern bro

[velvetlion]

lets see his stats before helping him any further. He shouldn't even think about taking steroids #1 if he is not ready and #2 if he has not done his research.

As I stated in a couple of my previous posts, I don't think that he is ready for a cycle just yet.

But this board is for education, and I believe that helping educate him on some of the things is more beneficial than holding off on helping him.

He is asking questions and sounds like he is paying some attention to what I am saying therefore I will continue to help him. If you don't want to, that is your perogative, but you don't have to tell me who I should help and who I shouldn't.