smoking herbal suplements while on cycle???

**build4life** · 03-09-2006, 10:23 PM

just wandering what everyone thinks of smoking herbal suplements while on a cycle. i think it helps with the gains because i eat more. but i heard it raises ur estrogen. what do you all think??

**Ih8urdsm** · 03-09-2006, 10:31 PM

i wouldnt consider marijuana a supplement if thats what your talking about...but anyway...in the terms that your using it, i guess you could consider it a recovery 'supplement' and appetite 'inhancer' lol...but it does have an effect on your test...not enough that i'd worry about it, but you can see what others think.

It does however have an effect of making some people a little lethargic, which can hurt...but more power to you! I recently quit (after smoking literally every day, for the last 9 years, no exageration...and i do definitly have more alertness/energy in the mornings...)

**speedtraining** · 03-09-2006, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by build4life

just wandering what everyone thinks of smoking herbal suplements while on a cycle. i think it helps with the gains because i eat more. but i heard it raises ur estrogen. what do you all think??

we don't talk about rec drugs here, and it won't help your gains.

**build4life** · 03-09-2006, 10:51 PM

we dont talk about drugs here? what kinda coment is that. steroids r a drug and we talk about them all the time. just wondering everyones outlook on things, and thats why i said herbal supplements

**DBflash21** · 03-09-2006, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by build4life

we dont talk about drugs here? what kinda coment is that. steroids r a drug and we talk about them all the time. just wondering everyones outlook on things, and thats why i said herbal supplements

Rec drugs loser.

**ToTheBuckeT21** · 03-09-2006, 10:50 PM

I'd say if you do it every now and then its whatever.. but don't make a daily habbit out of it.. I don't even like being high i haven't done it in years, i feel like such a freakin idiot.

**Anabolios** · 03-09-2006, 10:52 PM

RECREATIONAL DRUGS...how can you say what kinda comment is that..i think there is a very clear difference between steroids and marijuana...what gives you the audacity to say "what kinda comment is that" you have been here for a few days and you have 14 posts..good job digging your own grave suckaaaa

**build4life** · 03-09-2006, 10:53 PM

well i prob smoke about 3 times a week and its usually when i am really soar or trying to get to sleep. makes me sleep like a baby. it does effect ur test levels?? i heard it raises ur estrogen a lil. helps on those days where u just ate a shit ton and feel like u cant eat ne more meals. get ur herbal supp and ur ready for another 8 oz of chick and some rice

**build4life** · 03-09-2006, 10:55 PM

who not diggin a grave got a stomach diseas that stops me from eating so ithelps out. and if i lived in indian i would have a script for it. not tryin to start ne thing just lookin for input

**build4life** · 03-09-2006, 10:56 PM

and i have 12 post just cuz im a talker tryin to get to know everyone no need to hate on the new guy

**Anabolios** · 03-09-2006, 10:57 PM

lol digging a grave i was saying here not literally.. but smoke weed if you want its your body your choice lets end this thread

good luck ya bong tokin hippie

jk bro

**build4life** · 03-09-2006, 11:01 PM

thanks for all the advice i guess the concessus is to stop. so i will go with the group. thanks for the advice and again didnt meen to cause ne trouble

**Anabolios** · 03-09-2006, 11:02 PM

no trouble..i was just geared up from the last thread about the 15 year old..check it out im sure youll get some good laughs

**chest6** · 03-09-2006, 11:03 PM

cant talk bout that here. I don't see the point. I think that weed has something to do with raising estrogen levels and dropping test levels

**ToTheBuckeT21** · 03-09-2006, 11:05 PM

I hate how pot heads always get all the chicks!.. lol

**DBflash21** · 03-09-2006, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by ToTheBuckeT21

I hate how pot heads always get all the chicks!.. lol

I hate how they make excuses that weed is helpful. It increases my appetite which will make my gains better... It helps me sleep so that will help rest my body...By smoking it releases the soreness from my body...and a bunch of other bull sh!t, bottom line is, it makes you lethargic, stupid, and look like a moron.

**Ih8urdsm** · 03-09-2006, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by DBflash21

I hate how they make excuses that weed is helpful. It increases my appetite which will make my gains better... It helps me sleep so that will help rest my body...By smoking it releases the soreness from my body...and a bunch of other bull sh!t, bottom line is, it makes you lethargic, stupid, and look like a moron.

::Just to stir the fire a little:: Arnold was prob. regarded by many as the 'greatest bodybuilder of all time', and was a frequent marijuana user...(edit: I also believe the Mentzer bros were admited frequent users)

**Drummerboy** · 03-10-2006, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by DBflash21

I hate how they make excuses that weed is helpful. It increases my appetite which will make my gains better... It helps me sleep so that will help rest my body...By smoking it releases the soreness from my body...and a bunch of other bull sh!t, bottom line is, it makes you lethargic, stupid, and look like a moron.

How about this : to each his own about using pot. Your judgements show your character. we dont talk about them here because its a steroid forum, thats all. why attract more attention than we already have.

**Geodogg** · 03-10-2006, 03:10 AM

Originally Posted by ToTheBuckeT21

I hate how pot heads always get all the chicks!.. lol

i dissagree with that bro. from my experience, pot defenetly doesn't help anyone get more ass. it's actually the oposite. trust me.

**C_Bino** · 03-09-2006, 11:07 PM

Weed in its entirety is just a bad idea. I would never think about using it with my dedication to bodybuilding, it makes you lazy and just puts your mind in an immature state.

-Bino

**build4life** · 03-09-2006, 11:18 PM

that could bed true but i think im an a different smoker. not lazy, i actually am very outgoing, and we get all the chicks because they like guys they think they can fix

**build4life** · 03-09-2006, 11:21 PM

im only joking but no more threads from me about rec drugs. would like to stay on everyones good side

**build4life** · 03-09-2006, 11:22 PM

this is true. part of why i was asking. wasnt he smoking in pumping iron movie???

LORDBLiTZ · 03-09-2006, 11:25 PM

There's a time for training and a time to party. Work out like crazy on a cycle. And when the time is right and you're not on, party hard.

**Drummerboy** · 03-10-2006, 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by LORDBLiTZ

There's a time for training and a time to party. Work out like crazy on a cycle. And when the time is right and you're not on, party hard.

Amen.

**build4life** · 03-09-2006, 11:27 PM

very good point. thanks guys i think this thread has about had it. good debate though

**T3/T4 GSR** · 03-09-2006, 11:30 PM

I really do consider it somewhat of a supplement. In moderation it can really help you suqeeze a meal in if thats what you are using it for. Now if you smoke it not stop you will lose motivation.

**Ih8urdsm** · 03-09-2006, 11:33 PM

This can go on and on, so i wont post here anymore since its not the right place for it. One can argue it intelligently on both sides, w/ historical evidence to support both, but again, this isnt the right place for it. And as far as bodybuilding, and steroid use, I would be willing to bet there are a few of the top 20 bodybuilders in the world who do recreationally use marijuana...
but i do not condone recreational drug use of any sort...however everyone can and should live their own life the way they choose and has the right to do so. doesnt make it right or wrong... Good night : )

**Drummerboy** · 03-10-2006, 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by Ih8urdsm

This can go on and on, so i wont post here anymore since its not the right place for it. One can argue it intelligently on both sides, w/ historical evidence to support both, but again, this isnt the right place for it. And as far as bodybuilding, and steroid use, I would be willing to bet there are a few of the top 20 bodybuilders in the world who do recreationally use marijuana...
but i do not condone recreational drug use of any sort...however everyone can and should live their own life the way they choose and has the right to do so. doesnt make it right or wrong... Good night : )

you dont condone?

**build4life** · 03-09-2006, 11:34 PM

no i dont smoke that much like maybe 3 time a week or less

**ivrig** · 03-10-2006, 12:15 AM

When high, you relax more, so you grow more. Even Arnold smoked some times he has admitted. Because it is much better for the body than drinking, MUCH better. And you want to have a good time every now and then.
Just don`t smoke so much that it affects your training, doesn`t make you wanna run to the gym

You`ll be fine, i have the same amount a week

**build4life** · 03-10-2006, 12:25 AM

nice just always was a question of mine. thanks for all the feedback guys

**build4life** · 03-10-2006, 12:40 AM

true true. i am all tuckered out with this thread

**ivrig** · 03-10-2006, 12:54 AM

Well drinking is bad for the same things that steroids are bad for(kidneys,liver,kolesterol mostly), so it goes without saying!
Smoking is not good for you (not a secret), but on a cycle the THC (wich gets you high) opens your blood vessels more, but nikotin make them tighter, so it will even out. The case is still that smoking is insanly much wiser than alcohol on a cycle.

I smoke alot when I can`t sleep, couldn`t do without it then! And if i`m stressed out and need to relax more! As I said, when you relax more you grow more! Like a stage between awake and asleep

**Testsubject** · 03-10-2006, 01:03 AM

Smoke as much as you want, it will have no negative effect on muscle growth whatsoever. In fact, I think I actually benefit from the stuff.

**build4life** · 03-10-2006, 01:06 AM

well i was going to leave it alone but since i got some people that say go for it and some that say dont i just say i have never had a prob with it. but im not an every dayer

**ivrig** · 03-10-2006, 01:07 AM

That`s what I`m saying, you grow MORE!!!

As long as if does not fvck up you training, smoke all you want. But recommend you don`t smoke before training, only after

**Testsubject** · 03-10-2006, 01:13 AM

It also depends on the person too, some people get lazy and unmotivated when they smoke it, you have to see what it does for you, if it makes you lazy and shit, leave it alone, but if you notice no negative side effects from it, as do I, enjoy!

**ivrig** · 03-10-2006, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by Testsubject

It also depends on the person too, some people get lazy and unmotivated when they smoke it, you have to see what it does for you, if it makes you lazy and shit, leave it alone, but if you notice no negative side effects from it, as do I, enjoy!

This is true, and may be the only reason not to smoke, personally i think it`s a matter of willpower, never let the smoking get in front of my training!

And it may rise the estrogen, but this is extremly little, besides, it`s good to have some estro in you, you can gain more!

**Drummerboy** · 03-10-2006, 01:14 AM

for the record it raises estrogen and lowers test, but not much. or so ive dug up.

some ppl can use it and not be lazy some cant. go fugure.

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