Just Starting first Cycle

[ScorpioHardcore]

I am about to start my first cycle, have never used before. My avatar shows where I am now. I have a few questions as this is new for me.
I am looking to use the suggested novice cycle #1-1. However I have not been able to get the D-Bol yet, how will this impact my cycle not using the D-bol?
Also, the B-6? From researching I read that this is for nartural energy support?
Also, not as easy to get. My current location limits allot of what I can acquire.

So far I have no problems getting the Sustanon 250 or the Novadex. I can get the B-6 but they are only 50mg tabs and come only 10 to a box. Clomid is not hard to get either. But the cost is high here, 15USD for a 250 of Sustanon.

What I have avail to me now is:
Sustanon 250 X 11
Nolvadex 20mg x 30
B-6 40mg x 20
clomid 50mg x 10

Other supliments:
Muscletech Creatine 6000es, 5g per serving @ 120 servings
Muscletech Nitro-Tech Whey Protiene, Bulk 2lbs
Hydroxycut
XenadrineEFX, Xenadrine Carbo-Curb

This is the total List of everything I have. What is missing and what can I do with the above? My goal is a three month plan, two months of Bulking and one month of cutting. Any and all advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, I hope to impress a few people here over the next three months!

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[muscle_20]

you dont need dbol for your first.you will make big gains on the sust!
i dont know where you got that cycle but a single ester would have been far better than sust(varing blood levels).
well if you wana dish out cash on that muscle tech shit fair enough...its not really worth the high price as its not better than any other whey or creatine product.the b-12 will increase appetite and energy but isnt required unless you absalutely have your heart set on it.
if you train hard and eat correctly you will make a tremendous body change!

[ScorpioHardcore]

Thanks for the reply, the cycle I was set on using I found on this site.
http://www.steroid.com/novicecycle1.php
As far as the muscletech goes, its just what is available where I am at. I am working oversease in a very undeveloped country and have to rely on what I can either find in the military post exhcange or on the local economy. It just made sense to me to feed my body as much protien as I could to support growth and the creatine for recovery.
What I am reading in your reply is that realisitcaly the suston and an anti estro is all that I need?

Also, how long before starting my daily workout do I consume or inject my cycle?

Thanks for the help... sooo much info out there but hard to tell what is what as everything seems to cnotradict itself. Its good to have personal input from those with experience.

Scorp

[damiongage]

I am about to start my first cycle, have never used before. My avatar shows where I am now. I have a few questions as this is new for me.
I am looking to use the suggested novice cycle #1-1. However I have not been able to get the D-Bol yet, how will this impact my cycle not using the D-bol?
Also, the B-6? From researching I read that this is for nartural energy support?
Also, not as easy to get. My current location limits allot of what I can acquire.

So far I have no problems getting the Sustanon 250 or the Novadex. I can get the B-6 but they are only 50mg tabs and come only 10 to a box. Clomid is not hard to get either. But the cost is high here, 15USD for a 250 of Sustanon.

What I have avail to me now is:
Sustanon 250 X 11 need more 350-500mg/wk for 10wks IMO
Nolvadex 20mg x 30 not nearly enough
B-6 40mg x 20 not enough to do anything
clomid 50mg x 10 need atleast 3000mg, you got 500mg

Other supliments:
Muscletech Creatine 6000es, 5g per serving @ 120 servings
Muscletech Nitro-Tech Whey Protiene, Bulk 2lbs
Hydroxycut
XenadrineEFX, Xenadrine Carbo-Curb

This is the total List of everything I have. What is missing and what can I do with the above? My goal is a three month plan, two months of Bulking and one month of cutting. Any and all advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, I hope to impress a few people here over the next three months!

Scorphttp://forums.steroid.com/images/smilies/new/0piss.gif

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[ivrig]

I agree, sust is not for beginners!

Not easy to maintain constant levels

[MasterShake]

dbol dosage is split throughout the day because of the short halflife. time of day of test shot seems irrelivent to me as long as it does not interfere with the workout.

[muscle_20]

you need your sust,nolva,clomid and hcg if you balls shrink.
it sure dont matter what time of day you shoot the sust because you will only see the effects after a few weeks(sust is made for hrt so it is released very slowly). 2 amps of sust 250mg is plenty for a good effect per week,so you will need to get more.

[judge_dread]

Bro go get yourself Test E ,is far better option for a first cycle

[ivrig]

You should set sust EOD to take advantage of the prop

And yeah, test E is FAR better!

[MasterShake]

Bro go get yourself Test E ,is far better option for a first cycle

I tend to agree from what I've learned..

[muscle_20]

yeah if you do go with the sust the only chance of keeping levels slightly level is to inject eod and this will get messy.
i would just get a bottle of test-e it will serve you much better!

[damiongage]

You should set sust EOD to take advantage of the prop

And yeah, test E is FAR better!

I do not know about the better part. much less "FAR better". It is easier...but not better. test is test.

[damiongage]

yeah if you do go with the sust the only chance of keeping levels slightly level is to inject eod and this will get messy.
i would just get a bottle of test-e it will serve you much better!

Agreed....run it .5cc eod (430mg per wk apx)

[ScorpioHardcore]

ok, going to look into the test-e and see if I can get here from the local economy.
However, the sutanon is readily available, if I am not able to get the test-e is anyone in objection to using sustanon for a first timmer cycle?

I have aprox 3 months before I head back home a months leave from work...
Will it be productive to do a two month bulking cycle say test-e or sustanon
and then a one month cutting cycle?

[Brazil]

i shoot the sust eod im on 4th week i started to feel more powerfull on second week prob cause of drol... first cycle i did only 2 shots week and only 8 weeks and it worked wonders for me...

[muscle_20]

well sust needs to be run for at least 12 weeks cause it only kicks in after around a month(fully kicks in)so if you wana use it dont change your drugs between bulk and cut rather just increase cardio and lower calories.
you can of course use sust as a first timer but you should inject eod so you will need to split up the amps(watch for contamination).
dont vary your doses just use the same amount all the way through and dont forget that you will have to wait for the sust to be out of your system after you last shot until you start pct.

[ScorpioHardcore]

Thanks guys, just about got it all figured out. Want to do this right the first time around, just limited on what I can get to work with.

29, 5'7", 175lbs... I am reading that I should use more than 250ml of sust a week? I have the glass vials, 250ml Splitting would be a pain... but I am also being told that 500ml week is way to much for a beginers cycle.

Whats the census on this?

[ScorpioHardcore]

what is the difference between ED and EOD?

[MasterShake]

ed=every day
eod=every other day

[ScorpioHardcore]

thanks Shake,

You guys have been a big help. Was not sure about splitting as I am only able to get the sust in glass vials and the syrenge I get are larger and do not have accurate enough marks on them to guage how much I am taking out. So I decided to go ahead and do the 250ml a week at one time.
Started last night, needles never a problem with me as I work oversease and get a crazy amount of vaccines yearly. However last night when I first injected I feel "quezzy" and flush, body temp felt like it jumped up and stomach felt sick at first. This laste all of about 2 min then everything was fine. Inj site is not near as sore today as I thought it would be.
Going to hit the weights this afternoon... wish me luck!

thanks for the help guys!!! I'm off to build me some muscle!