Test, Dbol, Eq, Tren cycle - advice?

[starkeX]

Looking to gain mass and strength.

Already ran two test E/dbol cycles in the past

Here's what I'm planning on running.

Weeks 1 - 4: 50MG of dianabol daily
Weeks 1 - 12: 750MG of testosterone enanthate weekly
Weeks 1 - 10: 500MG of equipoise weekly
Weeks 5 - 10: 200MG of trenbolone enanthate weekly

As far as PCT goes, I will be using HCG and clomid, and possibly some left over clen I had from a previous cutting cycle. I'll also have nolva on hand.

The tren E dosage is so low because of its high androgenic effects, I'm very prone to hairloss and acne which I do not want at all, come summer time, and also it will be my first time using tren, so I dont want to go too high.

Any suggestions or comments?

Thanks

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Looking to gain mass and strength.

Already ran two test E/dbol cycles in the past

Here's what I'm planning on running.

Weeks 1 - 4: 50MG of dianabol daily
Weeks 1 - 12: 750MG of testosterone enanthate weekly
Weeks 1 - 10: 500MG of equipoise weekly
Weeks 5 - 10: 200MG of trenbolone enanthate weekly

As far as PCT goes, I will be using HCG and clomid, and possibly some left over clen I had from a previous cutting cycle. I'll also have nolva on hand.

The tren E dosage is so low because of its high androgenic effects, I'm very prone to hairloss and acne which I do not want at all, come summer time, and also it will be my first time using tren, so I dont want to go too high.

Any suggestions or comments?

Thanks

First thing is never run the EQ less than 12wks you wont see much of it in just 10 because it start kicking in in wk 7 or 8 so extend the cycle to 14wks & make the tren 10wks like this

1-4 50mg dbol

1-10 Tren 200mg ew

1-13 EQ 500mg ew

1-14 Test E 750mg ew

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Oh btw up the tren to 400mg if you can handel the sides if not then just stick to your doses.

good luck

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[SpiderRico]

that sounds like one massive ass cycle to me

[starkeX]

First thing is never run the EQ less than 12wks you wont see much of it in just 10 because it start kicking in in wk 7 or 8 so extend the cycle to 14wks & make the tren 10wks like this

1-4 50mg dbol

1-10 Tren 200mg ew

1-13 EQ 500mg ew

1-14 Test E 750mg ew

I'll def. take that into consideration. I won't start this cycle until maybe a month from now, so I'll do a little more research. I appreciate the help.

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Your welcome bro & keep up the hard work

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[vitor]

I dont see any point in stacking Tren and Eq together. They are both effective at the AR-recepter and ineffctive at the non-AR mediated mechanism.

Tren also bind exstremely well to the AR, 3-times better than Test, so the Eq is pointless here.

If it was me, I would use Tren-a 50 mgs ed. If there is sides, it will clear your system fast. Since you are prone to acne/hairloss maybe you should lower the test a little or drop the D-bol.

[notanormalgent]

I'm towards the end of the exact same cycle. Just run Arimidex at .5mg/d and finasteride for the tren and you should be alright. I did get a little more acne from the tren, but it's not terrible.

I'm going to be tossing in Turinabol to top off my cycle, as well.

[Swifto]

All these compounds at these dosages arnt needed for a 3rd cycle. Test at 750mg/wk and using Tren isnt justified for a 3rd cycle.

I think you need to take a step back and assess the cycle again. More compounds isnt more gains, its often more sides. I agree with what Vitor said. However, I'd drop the Tren and keep the EQ. Go with:

wk 1-12 Test Enan 500mg/wk
wk 1-11 EQ 400mg/wk
wk 1-4 Tbol 50mg/ED

If your goals are mass/strength, why not Dbol/Test/Deca?

Your PCT protocol also needs work. HCG/Clomid wont work well together, HCG/Nolva with an AI will.

[Booz]

if this is your 1st time using tren mate i would use the acetate not the enthate....
200mg tren e will not yeild much in the way of gains mate....use the acetate for your 1st time,the sides can be pretty harsh and it would take upto 4 weeks for the sides to subside on the enanthate,the acetate would be outta your system quicker.......

[starkeX]

I appreciate all advice fellas

I've decided tren is not for me. I'm not looking to add drastic strength, nor risk the nasty sides, I'm just looking to add pure mass and muscle hardness. Here's a revision of my cycle I plan on running in the upcoming weeks:

Weeks 1 - 4: Dianabol @ 50MG/day
Weeks 1 - 12: Testosterone Enanthate @ 750MG/week
Weeks 1 - 12: Equipoise @ 500MG/week

If you have any advice on my cycle, please make some suggestions.

Now for PCT, I was planning to use HCG, clomid, and nolva on hand. I've heard different opinions on the whole PCT matter. So, what would be a good PCT routine for this particular cycle?

Thanks fellas

[BlInDsIdE]

run the test e til wk 13 as far as PCT i'd run HCG throughout the cycle when needed and if u want pure mass and muscle hardness dbol might not b right for you- you might consider running anavar or winstrol instead