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    Think I figured it out!

    Ok, first off thanks to all the guys who helped me with my first threat about the beginers cycle, its great to have contact with others who are willing to share their knowledge. Because of my job and the fact that I am working in a war zone.... I cant just come out and ask the guys in the gyme about gear. It's not worth losing such a sweet gig like I have. So I rely completley on this site and the forums for my info.

    From what I got out of my first thread and other threads I followed up on, I can work with what I have available to me. So here is the cycle I am looking to do... input would be great!

    sust250 twice a week for 8 - 10 weeks depeding on progress made.
    Nolva 20mg day for entire cycle
    B-6 200mg day for entire cycle

    At the end of this cycle I want to do a cutting cycle, have been reading about the use of winny for this purpose... what do you guys think?

    It has been suggestted to do the sust250 EOD, however that is going to be a real pain as I am using the glass ampules and would have to sepperate into syrenge before hand. So, before I go into this whole process... what are the specific benifits of sust EOD as opposed to 2x wk?

    Again... Thanks guys...


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    sounds good, man, I am proud of you guys, you might consider a cycle of clen. its not as hard as winny. GP

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    in your statement "I can work with what I have available to me", i'm assuming this is all you can get? if you have any hopes of being able to get anything else, i'd suggest an anabolic to go with the test for far better results. also, might want to go for 12 weeks instead of 10. depending on the person, gear can take up to 3 weeks just to kick in. i know with me, sust doesn't even start working until the beginning of my 3rd week, so you need time on the stuff.

    also, you can't get anything for pct? even some clomid or hcg? if not, be prepared for a crash at the end of this. i did a cycle once without pct, and for the next 2 months after the cycle i had no sex drive at all, was real sluggish, and not depressed, but just not very happy or even interested in things. not trying to be a downer, just making sure you're prepared for what could happen without pct. good luck.

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    in response to your question of how often for the sust., if you want the most out of it, 2x a week is the min i'd suggest. two of the 4 tests in it have very short half-lives, so without frequent injections your test levels will vary greatly.

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    Thanks Guys,

    I guess I am looking at keeping with the 250ml of sust for the first 3 weeks, try and split it into twice a week @ 125ml.
    Then go to 500ml week @ 250 twice a week. LOL...I use glut for inj site... quess I will not be walking much. Oh well, as we say in the Infantry: Suck it up and drive on!

    My main goal, is to bulk up and at least be a little ripped so that my abbs are showing by the time I head home to see my girl at end of May!
    Anyone here think that is an unreasonable goal?

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    maybe but whats with the pct? ur not doing it? rethink that bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScorpioHardcore
    Thanks Guys,

    I guess I am looking at keeping with the 250ml of sust for the first 3 weeks, try and split it into twice a week @ 125ml.
    Then go to 500ml week @ 250 twice a week. LOL...I use glut for inj site... quess I will not be walking much. Oh well, as we say in the Infantry: Suck it up and drive on!

    My main goal, is to bulk up and at least be a little ripped so that my abbs are showing by the time I head home to see my girl at end of May!
    Anyone here think that is an unreasonable goal?
    what are your stats mate,you are new to this site so for us to help you properly we will need your stats....
    age
    weight
    height
    bf
    training exp
    any prev cycle exp???

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    Quote Originally Posted by booz
    what are your stats mate,you are new to this site so for us to help you properly we will need your stats....
    age 29
    weight 175
    height 5'7"
    bf unsure, look at avitar, see if you can guess. no real way to guage that where I am
    training exp intermediate
    any prev cycle exp??? none
    Army Infantry for 11yrs, back injury in 1999 put me out of play for a long time. At the time I was 185 and aprox 5-8% body fat. Worked out regular and ony used a few OTC supps.

    as far as the question about pct, that is post cycle right? what about clomi... have that. and have been told to get HCG as well.
    Last edited by ScorpioHardcore; 03-12-2006 at 03:56 AM.

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    props to you mate for posting yourself as your avvy.....
    6'7 god you are a biggun.................
    now this is by no means a put down mate,but looking at your avvy imo you should train hard with correct diet for another 12-18 months,get yourself a bit more muscle natty for your base before you go the roid route........
    that is just my opinion......
    but you are an adult and if you decide to go this route,and i am not advizing it....
    do not pyramid the dose,keep the dose the same throughout the entire cycle....if you pyramid the dose your blood levels will be unstable and you will not get the best results out of your cycle.....

    500mg sust 1-12(would advise a single estered test like enanthate)split into two shots weekly at least...
    make sure you have an AI on hand in case of gyno or unwanted bloat.
    do you know how to use pct???....you will need nolva and clomid for pct....

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    Have nova and clomid on hand, what do you suggest for AI?
    Looks like Sust is what I can get where I am, so will have to stick with that cycle.

    OH DAM...I just realized that I posted my height wrong... thats 5'7"..LMAO... will have to change that one.

    so then... 250ml sust twice a week sounds good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScorpioHardcore
    Have nova and clomid on hand, what do you suggest for AI?
    Looks like Sust is what I can get where I am, so will have to stick with that cycle.

    OH DAM...I just realized that I posted my height wrong... thats 5'7"..LMAO... will have to change that one.

    so then... 250ml sust twice a week sounds good?
    yeh the nolva will suffice mate..........

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