ey ^_^ i may need ur help with..

**(sic)mop** · 03-14-2006, 09:53 PM

ey hows everyone doin? ^_^
well, im happy to b part of this forum and share my interests with all. i do have one question and i'd like some help with it..

ive been doin roids for the past 3 yrs or so, but my rests from them have been VERY few and far between..it seems i cant stop injectin test..i have to take 500mg/wk of test at the very least to feel good. ive tried stopping b4, but i just cant handle not being on them

my question is: what is the importance of "cycling" in association with bodybuilding? do u "grow" more after each cycle?.. like a ladder
lol..how can u stand being in between cycles?? ^_^!

(sic)

**C_Bino** · 03-14-2006, 10:02 PM

Well there are some people who seem to never come off, and I mean there are such things as HRT so obviously if you are safe enough and just using test you should be ok, if you are running other things especially hepatotoxic substances then it can have a lasting and damaging effect on your liver, meaning you could develop jaundice or just kill your liver all together. However it can have a negative impact on cholesterol and BP to some degree, there is also the issue of major scar tissue buildup. I find it important to cycle to bring my liver values up to par and let natural testosterone replenish fully. And you ask how we stand being off cycle, its a discipline just as bodybuilding itself is.

-Bino

**spywizard** · 03-15-2006, 12:00 PM

they syndrome you are describing is the main reason people believe that roids are addictive, it's all in your head..

you need to rest, yes you will grow while at rest, just not as fast... remember when you went through puberty??? how fast you grew, but your body slowed down..

I see a very hard recovery for you..

I'd run 2 pcts one complete, then rest for 1 month then run pct again.. then take 3 months off,

get blood work done now.. then at the end of your 1st pct, then again before you start the 2nd one.. and a final at the end of the 2nd pct.. that will let you know if you have damaged your system beyond repair..

what i do off cycle.. alot of GH, and cardio..

**spywizard** · 03-15-2006, 12:00 PM

and welcome again to AR>..

**HUNTER1** · 03-15-2006, 12:04 PM

you need a break from AAS brother, your body needs to regain its homeostasis. You'll adjust and why not use the off time as cutting time -->cardio, eat clean, train.

**musclestack** · 03-15-2006, 12:40 PM

(sic)mop, I'm curious, are you continuing to gain while being on that long, or have the gains come to a hault?

**(sic)mop** · 03-15-2006, 12:50 PM

i've grown quite a bit.. im at 240 lb, 6'00''
but i realise that ive been doing this AWEFULLY wrong.. always thinking id loose all my gains if i ever stopped with the test..like all u said, its all in my head.. sooo
im gona stop for a long while.. i do need to get clomid or nolvadex b4 i do though..

*how do y guys suggest i do this (clomid/nolvadex thing)*
should i start right away? (im on sustanon right now) how long should i wait and for how long? spywizard mentioned something, but im not sure what it means ^_^!

**(sic)mop** · 03-15-2006, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by musclestack

(sic)mop, I'm curious, are you continuing to gain while being on that long, or have the gains come to a hault?

they came to a hault after a while..

but hten i added anadrol to my regular test intake and gained some more mass. after takin anadrol for 4 weeks, i lost "some" mass, and that when i ran into this site/forum... im learning ALOT here

**mcgas7** · 03-15-2006, 03:58 PM

have u ever ran pct?

**BigJames** · 03-15-2006, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by mcgas7

have u ever ran pct?

I do not think he has ever been "off"....

**(sic)mop** · 03-15-2006, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by BigJames

I do not think he has ever been "off"....

^_^!
Ive been off a few times.. mostly forced... but never PCT 'd.

after extensive reading, ive come to the conclusion that i should start clomid 3 weeks from now (my last sustanon injection was yersterday) i plan on running dianabol until a few days b4 i start clomid...and then continue with spywizard's suggestions ^_^
(sic)