TEST E CYCLE - extend or alter? suggestions?

[oneuglymofo]

Hey bros.. little help please - coming into 12th week of 14 week Test e 500/wk and deca 400/wk cycle - first 4 wks w/ dbol and takin 20mg nolva e/d- very standard - and have made good gains bench started at 150 kilo/330 lbs x 2 reps (pretty much my max) and now at 150 kilo x 6 reps (max last Friday was 170 kilo/375lbs - 1 time) - my weight is up 6 kilos/13 lb- my diet has been clean and steady - low weight gain and solid muscle was my plan so im happy with my results but like evryone els - I WANT MORE - my goal is to bench double my weight by summer end

my question is can anyone make any suggestions how I can extend this cycle? Would adding sus 250 and extending test for 6 more weeks or changing from from test e at wk 14 and starting sus 250 at 500 - 750 /wk make any sense? maybe run for another 6 weeks? i also read in a recent post a suggestion- including dbol again at the END of the cycle - could this be helpful

dont flame me - if you dont have a consturctive suggestion keep it to yourself - i dont post alot because i generally find most answers to my questions by looking around here so i spend more time in the gym then on posting and wasting peoples time with stupid questions (except maybe this one)- looks like pinn booz seeajackal and kale have good advice from experience and id be interested in hearing from you guys as well as others - thanks up front

stats - 34yrs - 5'9 -173cm
start cycle 86 kilo/190lbs 15%bodyfat - now 92 kilo/202lbs - 12 % bodyfat
2 previous cycles - first was a waste because of lack of knowledge and no PCT (before i found this board)
2nd was sus 250 - 2x/wk x 12 weeks and PCT

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I think bro you wont gain after week 10 or 12 gains will stop eventually so its better to finish your cycle at the original length that you made 14wks i beileve & save yourself money & gear for next cycle.

good luck,

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[viperbin]

that will be a loooong test cycle man... .. bottom line its how u feel bro... with the proper pcts n shit u MIGHT be ok.. but everyone is different maybe dont do 6 more but u could extend a little bit maybe 3 or 4 more weeks instead of 6... but once again yer call.. maybe go get some blood work done first to just to be safe

[build4life]

stick with ur original cycle, theres allways the next one. gain as much as u can now, do ur pct, wait 10-12 weeks, and get some blood work, if ur numbers r good run ur next cycle. u allways learn more with each cycle.

[Booz]

the question is are you still gaining mate??

[oneuglymofo]

thanks for the quick replies guys - im about an hour and a half from heading to the gym - i realize that gains generally stop around wk 10-12 but like i said im comin into wk 12 and feel stronger every day- wk 11 was my best benchpress by far - my wife says it looks like im growin while i sleep and my buddys are rushin out to get the same creatine i told them ive been on (haha) - so far no boner probs - just the opposite if anything and although my right nip was a bit itchy around wk 4 (i attributed it to the dbol plus test plus deca i was takein) after starting the nolva that week- ive not noticed any other probs - so ithink there are gains still to be had - im hopeful anyway

[oneuglymofo]

btw BOOZ congrats on the promo - i read all your advice to others and it helps us all

[Booz]

imo personally if you set out for a 14 week cycle i would stick to it mate........the longer you run the harder it will be to get your system straight afterwards....i know.....whatever you do make sure your pct is solid....

[oneuglymofo]

ill take these words to heart - thanks bros - my PCT for the 14 week plan was pretty standard as well - 2 weeks after lost test shot ill take clomid @300mg - first day- down to 100mg for next 11 -and 50mg days 12-21 as well as nolva
i have a question though ive been takin 20mg nolva ed thruout - and i plan on just continuing 20mg for one month following - any suggestions or changes needed??

[bobio_69]

what week did you start to notice most of your gains?

[Booz]

ill take these words to heart - thanks bros - my PCT for the 14 week plan was pretty standard as well - 2 weeks after lost test shot ill take clomid @300mg - first day- down to 100mg for next 11 -and 50mg days 12-21 as well as nolva
i have a question though ive been takin 20mg nolva ed thruout - and i plan on just continuing 20mg for one month following - any suggestions or changes needed??

leave the nolva at the recommended dose mate...........

[oneuglymofo]

what week did you start to notice most of your gains?

id have to say i noticed around week 6 or so maybe 7 - strength and pumps -this is why i was thinking of extending as i feel there are more gains to be had however im pleased with the results so far if youre thinkin of runnin the same - good luck

[oneuglymofo]

leave the nolva at the recommended dose mate...........

thanks for the advice bro

[muscle_20]

listen if increasing your bench is your goal you need to look at your training program and follow a powerlifting routine(the metal millitia routine works great!)

[oneuglymofo]

metal 20 id like to know more about the program you mentioned