Changing from mex to ugl? What do u think?

[ascendant]

Here's the story in a nutshell... Used to have a great source who always came through and sold mostly mex stuff (qv, denkall, etc). Stopped using gear for a couple years (long story), and just got back into it. Just bought a small cycle from the guy and he came through just as he did back in the day.

The thing is though, his products list he gave me recently was still mostly qv stuff, and when i asked him about how he has all the qv still when they're no longer making it, that's when he tells me he only has a small supply of the qv left and that since qv and most the mex companies were shut down cause of "operation gear grinder", he's going back to making his own stuff (ugl).

he said he has his masters degree in, if i remember right, chemistry or something along those lines from some college in illinois, and that he'll be making it in a lab that's costing him $36k, so it will all be sterile, etc. sure anyone can make this stuff up, but he always came through on the gear from the companies he distributed for, so you think this guy can be trusted as a legit ugl? know this is a very tough call, but just wondering if others have experience with similar situations and how theirs turned out. i just figure if this guy had distributed for so long and seemed to know his stuff, why ruin his reputation now?

[velvetlion]

It's hard to say without knowing the guy. But I can tell you that I have gotten better gains off of powder from China than I ever did off of Mexican gear. That is fact for me.

What I would suggest to you is to go to the lab forum and see how everything is being made. Come up with some questions for him if you are concerned with how he is making the gear.

There isn't quite as much to it as some may think, but it still requires care and a sterile environment and a good source.

Read in the lab for awhile and come up with your own question. You will be able to better make an educated decision on whether you can trust him or not.

[ascendant]

thanks for the info "velvetlion". i'll definitely do that. i've also pm'ed a mod to ask them how this guys rep is and see what they think about the situation. hopefully he's known around here and the mod can tell me if this guys credible as far as going ugl or not. i'd like to think so with my past experience with him, but trusting a distributor is one thing, trusting someone actually making this stuff at home is another.

[velvetlion]

thanks for the info "velvetlion". i'll definitely do that. i've also pm'ed a mod to ask them how this guys rep is and see what they think about the situation. hopefully he's known around here and the mod can tell me if this guys credible as far as going ugl or not. i'd like to think so with my past experience with him, but trusting a distributor is one thing, trusting someone actually making this stuff at home is another.

Your absolutely right. It is a different ballgame from distributor, to an actual at home chemist. You are doing the right thing. The only problem that I can see is that there are tons of UGL's out there and the mods may not know every one, but it is worth a shot at checking with them. I think they keep pretty good tabs on most that are popping up. If your guy is just starting than they might not know which doesn't mean that he isn't refutable. But you just have to go by what you think of him and how close you are with him.

It is a tough ballgame sometimes, but make good conscious decisions and you will end up ahead in the end.

Good luck!