Advice on AI/SERMS

**Ih8urdsm** · 03-17-2006, 02:18 PM

Im sorry for asking this again, i just have a few questions about the planned cycle i have and what to run during the cycle. I posted it before and i had some advice to run Letro/Ldex throughout, and just have nolva on hand, and to run with clomid for the pct.
My original plan was to run nolva throughout and w/ clomid for PCT.
I do value Swifto's comments and have been reading a lot of his threads lately about how running Letro seems to be the way to go, and have nolva on hand if symptoms arise, but just looking for more opinions.
Again i have only previously run nolva throughout and not ever run letro/ldex through a cycle.

The reason i need to know is because basically if i was going to run Nolva throughout, im going to need to purchase 2 bottles of nolva, and 1 of clomid, and if i want to have letro on hand, i just need 1 of letro....If im going to run letro/ldex throughout, then i just need to buy 1 bottle of nolva to have on hand, and to run through pct.
And my site sells Letro, not ldex, but if there is a real difference i can get ldex from Lion....

thanks for any info you guys have. here is my previous post: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=229850

PS. I havent started this cycle yet btw.

THANKS BRO"S

**C_Bino** · 03-17-2006, 02:24 PM

This is kind of up to you man. If you have run nolva with your previous cycles and found it to help and you have not suffered from gyno or other major estro related sides then stick with what you know. If it aint broke dont fix it. My personal preference is to run letro on cycle and use nolva for PCT along with clomid. Letro is the most powerful estro killer of the AI's out there, and then aromasin and arimidex respectively.

So honestly man go with nolva if it has worked in the past. If not then Yes like Swifto has told you Letro is a good choice, or another AI.

-Bino

**QuieTSToRM33** · 03-17-2006, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by C_Bino

This is kind of up to you man. If you have run nolva with your previous cycles and found it to help and you have not suffered from gyno or other major estro related sides then stick with what you know. If it aint broke dont fix it. My personal preference is to run letro on cycle and use nolva for PCT along with clomid. Letro is the most powerful estro killer of the AI's out there, and then aromasin and arimidex respectively.

So honestly man go with nolva if it has worked in the past. If not then Yes like Swifto has told you Letro is a good choice, or another AI.

-Bino

Agreed ....... letro is by far the best IMHO.

**damiongage** · 03-17-2006, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by C_Bino

This is kind of up to you man. If you have run nolva with your previous cycles and found it to help and you have not suffered from gyno or other major estro related sides then stick with what you know. If it aint broke dont fix it. My personal preference is to run letro on cycle and use nolva for PCT along with clomid. Letro is the most powerful estro killer of the AI's out there, and then aromasin and arimidex respectively.

So honestly man go with nolva if it has worked in the past. If not then Yes like Swifto has told you Letro is a good choice, or another AI.

-Bino

Agreed...do not fix what isn't broken. I personally would not run nolva without running an AI with it. The only reason I even run the nolva is for precaution, and I somewhat think that it is not even doing anything (because of the ldex), but I have always done it this way and never had any signs of gyno. I am not fixing what isn't broken....even though I think there may be a better way.

**Ih8urdsm** · 03-17-2006, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by C_Bino

This is kind of up to you man. If you have run nolva with your previous cycles and found it to help and you have not suffered from gyno or other major estro related sides then stick with what you know. If it aint broke dont fix it. My personal preference is to run letro on cycle and use nolva for PCT along with clomid. Letro is the most powerful estro killer of the AI's out there, and then aromasin and arimidex respectively.

So honestly man go with nolva if it has worked in the past. If not then Yes like Swifto has told you Letro is a good choice, or another AI.

-Bino

Ok, thanks very much. Am i correct with understanding that Letro would help with water retention more than nolva? or is that just wrong?

Im thinking i will buy letro, and start running that throughout the cycle, with nolva on hand, and to use w/ clomid for pct. I figure it can only be a learning experience :

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On this cycle, how much letro should be run ED? And i imagine when i start pct, i'd drop letro and just run the nolva/clomid schedule i have run before.

**damiongage** · 03-17-2006, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Ih8urdsm

Im thinking i will buy letro, and start running that throughout the cycle, with nolva on hand, and to use w/ clomid for pct.

that is a solid plan.

**C_Bino** · 03-17-2006, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Ih8urdsm

Ok, thanks very much. Am i correct with understanding that Letro would help with water retention more than nolva? or is that just wrong?

Im thinking i will buy letro, and start running that throughout the cycle, with nolva on hand, and to use w/ clomid for pct. I figure it can only be a learning experience :

:

On this cycle, how much letro should be run ED? And i imagine when i start pct, i'd drop letro and just run the nolva/clomid schedule i have run before.

You're right man. Definitely drop the letro going into PCT and hop on your regular PCT regimen (nolva or w/e it may be). And yes Letro will reduce bloat, it is extremely powerful and will dry you out fairly quickly. As for dosing, the regular dose is .25-.50mg ED. I run it anywhere in that range, somedays .25mg and others .5mg if I notice I am retaining a little more water than I should be...also increasing my water intake.

-Bino

**Ih8urdsm** · 03-17-2006, 02:54 PM

Thanks a lot c-bino. I do really value swifto's opinion and didnt want to make it seem like i was second guessiing him, it was the exact opposite, i just needed a little more info i guess.
So im going to run letro this time throughout. I will have Nolva and Clomid for PCT (on hand before i start the cycle of course)
I think it makes sense since i ran nolva throughout before (and i understand not fixing it if its not broken), but then i can make a better decision what works best for me for the future. THANKS BOYS!!!