Deca wit Prop for 1st cycle?

[venomm]

Weeks 10
100mg Test Prop EOD
20mg nolvadex ED
Anti E i.e letro to combat the estrogen throughout

PCT
week 10-13
20 mg nolvadex ED
50 mg CLomid ED

i talk to my source about the above cycle and he suggest somethin like this:

If you’re going to make this kind of investment into your PCT I suggest you review your cycle and kick it up a notch as it would be such a waste to hammer such a great PCT regime on such a mild steroid cycle. I’d shorten the Nolvadex use and buy some Deca to go with the prop. Drop the Nolvadex to ½ tab twice daily and get yourself 2 Denkall Deca’s.
Should i do that or up the prop to 150 or do ED shots

need some replies and some changes any1 like to do so that i wont mess up.
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[topvega]

No need to run 2 compounds for a first cycle.... prop is great but I don't know if u want to run it as 1st cycle.... U will need quite a few injection spots to rotate between if u use prop.... I wld give some thought towards a simple 12 week cycle of test e or c then u can get away with 2 shots a week which won't call for so many sites... 500mg a week is pretty standard....

[venomm]

i thought about that too but TestE cause more bloatness then prop thats why and i know it can be controlled by running AntiE
so if i do TestE 500mg/wk and bein at around 15.2% bf,how much bloatness it cause and will the bf% go up?

[topvega]

i thought about that too but TestE cause more bloatness then prop thats why and i know it can be controlled by running AntiE
so if i do TestE 500mg/wk and bein at around 15.2% bf,how much bloatness it cause and will the bf% go up?

Don't get me wrong.... if u don't mind the high number of shots and rotating sites frequently, prop is your best choice.... for most it is also very painful in the begining.... u cld run test e or c with an anti e to combat the bloat somewhat....

[cornhole]

hes telling you right.first cycle you should run test only! you will get great results.

[hosam4ever]

test is enough for u

[venomm]

i hear ya guys as i dont wanna be juice happy too for first cycle.

[Swifto]

Test Prop is ok for a first cycle the only drawback being the injection frequency required. If you can handle EOD injections, or better ED injections to keep blood plasma levels nice and stable. Test Prop will yield some good quality gains and will leave your system quickly if you dont like it or have a bad reaction to it.

wk 1-10 Test Prop 75mg/ED

An AI could be run to reduce estrogen related side effects also. PCT begins 3 days after your last Test Prop shot.

[topvega]

Test Prop is ok for a first cycle the only drawback being the injection frequency required. If you can handle EOD injections, or better ED injections to keep blood plasma levels nice and stable. Test Prop will yield some good quality gains and will leave your system quickly if you dont like it or have a bad reaction to it.

wk 1-10 Test Prop 75mg/ED

An AI could be run to reduce estrogen related side effects also. PCT begins 3 days after your last Test Prop shot.

Yeah prop is definetley a love hate thing with me.... bottom line though the shit works great... going into my 9th week of ed injections and it sucks now, but I wld do it again next cycle...

[venomm]

thnx guys, and i jus 1 more stupidQ as couldnt find it in any posts i searc so for that r related to Prop...does it shut the Sex drive?
i already got an estimate for above cycle from my source,can i check it wit u guys to c if he is not ripping me or is it not allowed in the threads?

[scottroxx]

stick with test E or C like their saying above. Prop. hurts like hell and a beginner doing shots everyday just don't sound right ...lol sounds great til you have to do it ED and dealing with the pain. trust me bro, I'm doing 100mg ed with 75mg tren and 100mg winny and holy sh@t some days are pretty rough...lol I've been doing it for over 10 years too !!!! Its not as easy as you think... and test doesn't shut you down !!! Good luck ....

[topvega]

thnx guys, and i jus 1 more stupidQ as couldnt find it in any posts i searc so for that r related to Prop...does it shut the Sex drive?
i already got an estimate for above cycle from my source,can i check it wit u guys to c if he is not ripping me or is it not allowed in the threads?

Prop is a form of test.... it is a short estered test.... so no it is very helpful with your sex drive as is any other type of test.... everyday shots do suck... it might seem " rock star-ish" to inject everyday... and u might even get off on it for awhile... but it takes it's toll on u.... the injecting part is easy.... it's the dealing with the lingering pain of prop that sucks... and even after u get used to it u can still have those days where u just want to hack that body part off that u injected into 36 hrs ago....lol

As far as prices go.... maybe u can pm a willing mod... u can't talk prices on the open board though....

[venomm]

yea...thats what every1 saying about the pain that come wit Prop, the only reason i wanna do it as first cycle beside the pain is the less bloatness, but as mention above wit anti, bloatness can be control even on TestE but couldnt find how much difference

[BG]

Yeah prop is definetley a love hate thing with me.... bottom line though the shit works great... going into my 9th week of ed injections and it sucks now, but I wld do it again next cycle...

I hear ya, around week 10 of ed shots I say Ill never do it again, but next cycle prop is the base.

[BG]

yea...thats what every1 saying about the pain that come wit Prop, the only reason i wanna do it as first cycle beside the pain is the less bloatness, but as mention above wit anti, bloatness can be control even on TestE but couldnt find how much difference

Ldex will keep the bloat away pretty well.Prop is tough, especially for 1st timer, I would stick with the longer ester test.

[venomm]

my source say he Don't have letro or arimidex and feel nolva and clomid will be enuff and i dont want to take chance, any suggestions about from where i get those in canada ?