Is HCG needed to keep gains after using Test?

[Random]

i always do PCT after a cycle, usually follow some of the protocols on this board for PCT, for test at 500-700mg per week, assuming im gonna be using tribulus, clomid, nolva...do i need HCG to keep gains? what do you guys think?

[Mesomorphyl]

Not needed to keep gains. But you will keep more gains by recovering quicker, hence hcg help you recover quicker.

[Warrior]

Depends on how much you are using and how long... but a little HCG toward the end of the cycle normally can't hurt... it give your testes a little wake up call prior to coming off and starting PCT...

[Random]

thanks...how long do you start HCG before you come off? i was just gonna do a short comp cycle like 8 wks then continue right after the competition for another 4 or so weeks (test at 700mg per week plus anavar)..

[Mesomorphyl]

This is very debatable... everyone is going to start calling out swales protocol but once again I will say go with 1000iu (using nolva during and past this time) 10 days strait leading into clomid therapy. This is my recommendation based on experience. Theory can be debated, experience is observed.

[Swifto]

Some use HCG during PCT, some dont. I use it during PCT and its worked well, for me. This may vary from person to person. I think using HCG leading upto PCT is a good idea, even if your using HCG in your PCT protocol or not.

"Keeping gains", depends on:

- Diet
- Training
- Rest
- PCT protocol
- AS used
- Genetics

IMHO.

[Random]

how much is 1000iu converted to ml? just curious... and how much HCG per day for the 10 days leading up to PCT?

[Swifto]

how much is 1000iu converted to ml? just curious... and how much HCG per day for the 10 days leading up to PCT?

It depends on what concentration you mix the HCG? You can dilute it to whatever you desire.

I'd go with 500-1000ius/ED for 10-15 days, then start PCT.