question about the first cycle of test, How did 500 mg go for you guys who did that on your first cycle? both positively and negatively? Sides? I was considering doing that, with some winny 50 mg per day...
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question about the first cycle of test, How did 500 mg go for you guys who did that on your first cycle? both positively and negatively? Sides? I was considering doing that, with some winny 50 mg per day...
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sweet, maybe instead u should consider starting ur own thread
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He was asking you a question so he could apply it to himself.Originally Posted by BiggCatt
You answered it like a fourth grader who just got his candy stolen.
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haha, thanks for the back up, I've been jumpin in on threads like this too because I've had a hard time getting some good feedback on my question...I would like some because Im considering what I said...I would like to know experiences, the likeliness of sides, and the gains seen on similar cycles...
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lol w/e
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Since we now have control of the airplane, you won't see many side off 500mg/week other than a little bloat and maybe some acne. If it is your first cycle, expect 10-20 lbs in 8-12 weeks. Might even be better if you leave the Stanozolol off until next time.
A pretty gentle and effective cycle-that is why everyone recommends it for first timers.
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And research your PCT and have it ready upon starting...You will keep alot of gains the first time!
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that sounds pretty solid, because honestly I want a boost, not a regimine of cycling, I honestly don't plan on aas as a regular thing...I was planning on really trying to rip up for this summer, but not at the expense of depression, and internal body failure, lol...So i was looking for a good way to boost that goal...Also, the reason I wanted to throw winny in there was to really shred up along with throwing on some lean mass...The last thing I want is to get bigger, but have my stomach go to shit for the summer...Whats the word based on that?
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See ya!!!
Last edited by GetinBig; 03-20-2006 at 11:22 AM.
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So Test E Even if I want to get shredded? I know diet and cardio are most important for that, but I still wanna shred up...
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Test prop is the best for cutting IMO
I know Guys that cut on TEST E though.
There are things that you can take along with the test to keep the bloat down.
I run .25mg L-dex ed and 10-20mg nolva ED Start to end of PCT. It keeps the bloat down for me..
READ RESEARCH READ READ...
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well the test E was more for lean growth and the Winny was the cutter obviously, I mean the less I can get away with the better obviously, but I really want to define alot, but throw on some mass as well so...
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bump bump bump
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Stick with just test. For a first cycle it's best to just use test, to see how your body will react to it. With another substance ie: winny, if you were to have problems like gyno, or hairloss, ect... you would not know which compound was causing the sides.
For a second cycle you could add in the winny, but I'd stick with just the test first. You can cut on test. It's all diet and training.
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sticking with just the test seems to be the consensus from everyone, im just so amped about taking the winny because of its immense cutting ability and the great results that people have seen...Also at the dosage I am thinking of sides should be minimal to none, but still the great effect because of my age...
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bump
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Bro, sounds like you don't want to hear what people are telling you. It is your decision to make in the end, but why ask for advice from people if you only want to take the advice that you want to hear. Not flaming you, but people are trying to point you in the right direction (if there is a right direction to any of this)
Listen to the guys here. You are young and have a lot of time to experiment with things such as Winny in future cycles.
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No I know what you are saying, for some reason im hung up on what to do, I guess I just have it in my mind that this cycle will really carve me out hardcore for summer and that makes me anxious to try it...Also, what would be the effects of taking winny alone?
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Taking winny alone with a good diet would harden you up a bit. But you might lose use of your penis at the same time, so is a good hard physique worth losing the use of your penis? Only you can answer that.
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Don't get me wrong, you might still be able to rub one off with the wet noodle, but it will just take much longer and might feel kind of awkward.
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why would winny give me limp dick? Also, I would continue my NO2 on Winny, which flows some serious bllod throughout your body, so maybe that would counteract any limp dick...
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Any aas will shut down your natty levels, and if you don't have some test incorporated there, you can have problems.
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Isn't there a correlation between dosages and sides? 50 mg of winny is pretty standard to low isnt it? Also, 500 mg Test E same deal right? obviously people will react differently, but since I am so young I won't need as much a of a dose? creating gains with little to no sides?
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There is some correlation of sides to dose, but when it comes to your natty levels, it doesn't take much to shut them down. Not everyone gets this, but many do. My nuts rarely have any noticeable shrinkage and my labido may decrease a bit, but is always still functional, but this isn't true for everyone. I would say that more people have labido problems than don't.
I guess I just have some big ol nuts of steel!!!!!!
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how young r u....it doesnt look like you need to cut-up...your pic looks fairly lean already...imo
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Yeah I am pretty Lean already I guess, I really want a ripped up stomach, I wont lie, i want that really bad...I am pretty lean as is, so do you think that running a cycle of Test E will bulk me up, but I will retain that leannes I Already have, so I wont even need the winny?
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Bump
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Bro, Test e with the right diet and training can cut you up, and leave you with the use of your tool. Diet and training play a bigger part than the aas does.
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Yeah thats how it seems to me, I mean if you can't tell I wanna get bigger, but I really wanna be shredded for summer, so however I can do that is the route I want to take...Also, I definately understand you are what you eat, regardless of your AAS or non participation, you still need to have a good diet to see gains, whatever they maybe...On that note, I would like a suggestion about exactly how to run my cycle and my diet inorder to put on some serious mass, but be ripped up as well...
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Bounce back and forth between this forum and the diet forum and search for all of your questions using the search feature. put something together for your diet and cycle, and post it for review... then we can give advice.
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Good call, I think I will post my proposition and see how flamed I get, hahah...
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