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    Can clen replace normal pct? Won't nolva restore signal function between hpta/testes?

    According to some kind of professor nolva do nothing good in pct use because the signal function between hypofysis and the testicles won't be restored and the problem with natty testosterone is not solved. It's better to allow the body to get back to normal by itself, and clen can be used to prevent loosing gains..

    I hightly doubt this, but what do you guys say? I am a believer in pct but now I need more info to back this up.

    Sorry for my bad english.

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    The professor is incorrect about nolva not helping in recovery. You can read many threads on how nolva is used in PCT. You can use clen as part of your PCT but I wouldn't make it the only compound.

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    Ok, thanks.. I have read about nolva but I don't understand the thing about the signal function between the brain and testes not being restored.. Wtf is he talking about?
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    how would clen help u keep your gains. When its used for cutting. Im new to clen i still learning about it

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    clen is suppossedly anti catabolic when ran for extended durations such as 6+ weeks (continous) IMO its nothing noticable so meh i think its an extremely retarded idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    clen is suppossedly anti catabolic when ran for extended durations such as 6+ weeks (continous) IMO its nothing noticable so meh i think its an extremely retarded idea
    I normally agree with you Tai, but this time I have a differing opinion. I have used clen in pct and it seems to help retain my gains better. I can stick to the same calorie intake without putting on any fat and my body feels like it is using up all those cals, just like when I am on cycle. Not sure exactly why, but from personal experience, I believe that it does help you to retain some gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by velvetlion
    I normally agree with you Tai, but this time I have a differing opinion. I have used clen in pct and it seems to help retain my gains better. I can stick to the same calorie intake without putting on any fat and my body feels like it is using up all those cals, just like when I am on cycle. Not sure exactly why, but from personal experience, I believe that it does help you to retain some gains.
    well that IMO is due to the hightened metabolic rate aiding in protein synthesis not truely the "ANTI CATABOLIC" Effect. but yes i kan see how its tiny AC effect and increased protein synthesis can be EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL and EVEN MORE noticable in a fragile pct catabolic state.

    but CLEN alone is absurd! no way to speed up recovery to restoring natty test production w/ clen

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    Clen causes me to have decreased appetite, something I don't need while on PCT. I've done it with and without with similar results.

    Not to mention the sides and health issues from clen are much worse than AAS, not worth it IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    Clen causes me to have decreased appetite, something I don't need while on PCT. I've done it with and without with similar results.

    Not to mention the sides and health issues from clen are much worse than AAS, not worth it IMO.
    aye i concur alot there but any stim is going to suppress appetite with the majority.
    clen is awsome is used properly and if u not worried about having the occasional heart flutter/palitations or minor heart attacks

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    clen is awsome is used properly and if u not worried about having the occasional heart flutter/palitations or minor heart attacks
    lol, exactly.

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