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    The Prime explained before cycling..

    Recently ive had alot of questions and request to post some information regarding the prime before a cycle, hopefully this will give some insight into the process.

    The prime is a very valuable tool to have for any cycle-
    This process creates a very anabolic environment so muscle tissue can grow at a fast rate when you start a cycle, there are plenty of ways this process can be done. In simple terms you simply carb cycle very slowly and manipulate your glycogen stores without altering your metabolism. Many experience this kind of process just when they are dieting for a comp but a prime is done a lot slower. The main objective isn’t to lose bf but to create this special environment, alot of BB's who have done comps will understand this process and know how much can be obtained during this special environment . Dorain was a big believer in this priming and would be straight back into the gym after big shows taking advantage of this valuable tool.

    I have tried many different ways with my own body to find out which one suits me better and i prefer to cycle my carbs 3 low 1 high, this will create a very anabolic environment for muscle tissue to grow, the muscle receptors get highly excitable and upgrade and able to accept more glucose and because glucose levels are not full in the muscle the result is more deposited into the muscle when you start the cycle and increase the food, this environment builds muscle tissue very quickly, if this is done correctly and timed right when you start the cycle, growth is amazing, i feel priming is a must when considering any cycle but it does work and is ideal towards short cycling.

    With the carb prime rotation process i follow 3 days low carbs(40% less than normal) 1 day high (15% higher than normal) You must have a basic stable maintenance diet which you have ran for a few wks before doing such a process. Ii feel this isn't to harsh on your muscle tissue and the 1 high carb day offsets any potential metabolic slowdown, which is extremely usefull in laying down metabolic boosting muscle or at least saving it. if this process is not done right you will lose muscle tissue so careful planning is needed to hold on to all the muscle gains you have, when any kind of priming is done an increase in protein/aminos acids will help to maintain the current muscle tissue, also GH would benefit in helping this process, the high carb/low carb rotational prime diet also upgrades the receptors sites on muscle tissue for insulin , this changes the body's ability to store carbs as glycogen in muscle tissue rather than fat. The priming works far better if its done over a longer period of time, You will burn unwanted body fat while maintaining muscle tissue and a slow reduction in carbs towards the cycle start will create an ideal environment for huge muscle gains. Also the last 5 days to the run up to the start of the cycle should be low carbs (40%).

    Another way of priming is the slow reduction of carbs within your diet over 6-8 weeks or longer, make sure protein is increased in any of the priming methods so muscle loss is stopped or at least kept to a minimum, when ever the prime is done it creates an environment for muscle tissue to grow very quickly so when you do start your cycle all this coupled with a AAS and all the other compounds you use and the increase in food intake makes this an ideal environment for muscle tissue to grow and huge tissue gains are experienced.

    The idea is to create an environment so you spring board into a cycle, there are certain things what must be in place so you dont receive muscle tissue loss before the cycle but when its done correctly the gains are amazing, its a excellent tool to have on any cycle.I feel alot of newbies think that AAS is the whole key to building the perfect body but its not, its just one tool for the job there are many other things what come into play to help the process of building muscle and priming is one of them.



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    great post marcus thanx

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    Good one... needs put into the training and diet forums as well.

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    great info for all newbs that its not all about the compounds you take......
    there are other things to consider getting right before you use gear.........
    this is definately something new and inexpierienced users should look into..
    great post as usual Marcus............
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    Great post bro........I've been looking into a short cycle this defenitely helps out!

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    great post! Thanks for the info! I can tell a few of my bro's to check it out before they start their first cycle!

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    Good stuff Marcus.

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    Thanks for all the comments

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    Great post bro. Thank you!

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    Real good post, thanks

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    Great post M!

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    Thanks a lot. I was thinking about posting a question in the diet forum about what to eat before starting a cycle. But you already answered all my questions

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    Good stuff Marcus, When are they gonna promote you to VET?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    Good stuff Marcus, When are they gonna promote you to VET?
    I dont think am in the running. Thanks for your comments

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    lol, Yea me either Great threads none the less. Still have my eye on the one sitting in my PM box, maybe in a year or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    lol, Yea me either Great threads none the less. Still have my eye on the one sitting in my PM box, maybe in a year or so.
    Keep it safe and dont show anyone, worth alot of money

    One day!!

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    No it would make most ppl crap their pants. That could be a sticky situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    No it would make most ppl crap their pants. That could be a sticky situation.
    I know, i did!!

    IBmfkr - try priming next time round, trust me you will be amazed..

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    bump......

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    Very nice marcus....your the man.... Dorain was a true player in this sence,he would look for what he called the rebound effect,the day after he wins Mr Olympia he`s in the gym taking advantage of this effect.


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    Quote Originally Posted by goose4
    Very nice marcus....your the man.... Dorain was a true player in this sence,he would look for what he called the rebound effect,the day after he wins Mr Olympia he`s in the gym taking advantage of this effect.


    goose...
    Your totaly right goose, its a very valuable time which needs to be taken advantage of, it prepares your body for growth and when its done correctly the gains are very dramtic and quick, its a vital time the first few weeks when you start a cycle so why not prepare your body to except all the growth it can.

    You go like a dried sponge with this process and when all the compounds and food are started you get a massive rebound effect which equals muscle tissue growth at an alarming pace.

    Marcus

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    Thanks for the knowledge boost Marcus.

    M.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300
    I know, i did!!

    IBmfkr - try priming next time round, trust me you will be amazed..
    I deff will. I'll be dieting for contest August through Sept. I'll try a short burst right after that. Thx for advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    I deff will. I'll be dieting for contest August through Sept. I'll try a short burst right after that. Thx for advice.
    Let me know how you get on in the contest, and it will be an ideal time to spring board into another cycle

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    great post but i have a question

    so let me get this straight.. you diet down for a while to lose unwanted body fat. then you start cycling your carbs 3 low 1 hight like you said. continue to do that for a few weeeks then the last five days before you start you keep your carbs at 40% of your daily food intake? im just trying to make sure i understand how to do this right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trulbfan3
    great post but i have a question

    so let me get this straight.. you diet down for a while to lose unwanted body fat. then you start cycling your carbs 3 low 1 hight like you said. continue to do that for a few weeeks then the last five days before you start you keep your carbs at 40% of your daily food intake? im just trying to make sure i understand how to do this right.
    Yes thats right, but cycling your carbs is only one way to do it, thats the best way for my body to hold onto muscle tissue, you could just do a slow reduction in carbs like pre-contest, remember your only getting rid of unwanted BF.

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    wow, most useful. thanks

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    thanks for the info, ill definietely try this out.

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    This thread should be studied and understood by anyone who is serious about bodybuilding.

    Do not underestimate the power of priming!
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    Quote Originally Posted by xtralarg
    This thread should be studied and understood by anyone who is serious about bodybuilding.

    Do not underestimate the power of priming!


    Deep truth....I never underestimate the power of marcus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goose4
    Deep truth....I never underestimate the power of marcus.
    Hey i have a fan

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    Nice post, thanks to whoever bumped it. I hadnt seen it before, good read bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300
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    No Marcus, you have 2 fans!

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300
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