What kiind of results do you think I will get, using winstrol, and ECA?
What kiind of results do you think I will get, using winstrol, and ECA?
what are you looking for?. First off that aint the best cycle. Second it don't matter what you take diet and traing need's to be right first
also stat's ? and cycle history ?
I'd love to hear the answer to this thread...because I am considering my first cycle as well, Test E 500 mg/week and winny 50 mg everyday, everyone says only test, but im stuck in my mind on having the winny too because I wanna be shredded for the summer, but bigger as well....
Originally Posted by Undecided09
being shredded is solely based on ur diet/cardio/training .......... not on which AAS u use
you look pretty ripped in your photo man i would be more concerned with increasing muscle mass.Originally Posted by Undecided09
winny only should give lean muscle gains(a few pounds)an increase in power,possible decrease in sex drive,possible dry painfull joints and for definate a suppression of the bodys own test production which means pct is nessacery(as with all steriods).
i did this cycle once at only 30mg per day for 6 weeks and had slight muscle gains and no loss when i came off cycle i also did no pct(very very uneducated at that stage!)
I am glad you asked bro... This is what I am trying to do. oh, first my history.
I did my first cycle in 2000. went from running a 4.8 40 to 4.47. I was about 215-220 but lean. I used a test, but I don't know what kind. A friend hooked me up.
Second cycle was sustanon 250 by itself.... Had some ok gains and my weight went up a little.
Third cycle was D-bol and winstol. My speed was good. But I gained 15lbs and I couldn't get the weight off.
Last season I went with EQ alone with a ECA stack. I felt a little stronger, but my weight stayed the same.
Now I am 240 - 245lbs about 15-17% bf and I need to be 215-220. I am a wide receiver, so I am trying to increase my speed and get as lean as possible. So I was going to take winny with the eca.
When I have taken the Winny in the past it has kept me strong in my sprints. But it also made me really stiff. I need the endurance because in Arena Football you have to play both ways.
Some suggested EQ with the winny, but I am trying to drop wieght and the last time I used EQ it made me gain a few lbs. I need to look like you look in the picture.
Oh a lot of my wieght is in my legs and ass. I am built like a running back if that helps. I am not fat, I am just think.
Ok well Winny would be horrible to take during season or any time your gonna be doing a contact drills or a contact game, serious injury risks...Winny is def a good cutter, so I would go with Test E 500 mg/week and 50 mg winny ed, proper PCT is required ofcourse...However, if you want to shred up you gotta look to your diet first, you gotta look at exactly what your intake is and pinpoint your problems in regards to why you can't shred up naturally, then once you have pinpointed and changed those, then I would continue that trend along with The cycle I said if you are intersted, which you obviously are, in doing AAS...
OK I am going to look in to that.
winny is great when u have pretty low bf
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Last edited by Auto54; 02-12-2009 at 12:14 PM.
Winny will give you good muscle hardness, Good definition, good vascularity. But, You need low body fat. The problem with Winstrol is it takes a toll on your body after 6 weeks. It dries out my joints big time and I get a lot of muscle cramps from it. I would NEVER run it alone. Since you will be shooting it ED, I would run it with Test Prop, Not Test E.
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