need help on first cycle help!!!!

[malone65]

well iam 6'3 315 and i graduated from high school last year and ive been lifting for 4 yrs, iam about to go play college football and i was a bout to start a cycle i was wondering what u guys suggest as far as what to take

thanks

[extreme22]

bro whats your 20yrs old still to young for gear,
you just need to diet and train hard and i say Cardio thats right Cardio
gear is not for you right now sorry but i cant give you any advise but what i have given you

take 2 to 3 yrs to read up on gear then make your Decision about gear

[topvega]

Sorry I gotta go with the too young for gear.... which will probably be the majority... at those stats a solid diet and cardio will do wonders...

[extreme22]

malone65 everyone onhere will tell you the same thing trust us man
you are at 6'3 315 f_uck bro u can be a monster with the right diet and training and cardio you are 315 at 20 **** who do u know is at that
stats think about it and if you miss use the gear it will miss use you

[malone65]

i know that i am probably to young but i am for sure going to start i was looking at stacking Anadrol-50 ,Equipoise,Testosterone-Proprionate and d-bol
so tell me what you think and how i shouls stack them
thanks

[topvega]

i know that i am probably to young but i am for sure going to start i was looking at stacking Anadrol-50 ,Equipoise,Testosterone-Proprionate and d-bol
so tell me what you think and how i shouls stack them
thanks

This alone says don't mess with the gear..... for the record:
prop needs to be shot ed
Eq needs to be run for 15 weeks to get good results
drol and dbol in the same cycle = name on the liver transplant list at an early age............

[malone65]

this is y iam asking for ur guys for help since the Anadrol is so pricey will the d-bol give the same affect

[Undecided09]

to build on what Vega Said, your definately not ready for gear if you think that stacking all of those things together in your VERY FIRST CYCLE is appropriate...no way to differentiate how your body is reacting to each individual compound, too much to process at once for your first cycle...not knowing that should tell you your not ready for it...On the other hand Vega he made i clear that he is going to do it with your advice or not, so based on that instead of trying to convince him otherwise, how does he do it most safely?

I say Test E 500 mg/week and possibly Anavar...Proper PCT....

[Ufa]

i know that i am probably to young but i am for sure going to start i was looking at stacking Anadrol-50 ,Equipoise,Testosterone-Proprionate and d-bol
so tell me what you think and how i shouls stack them
thanks

These people are telling you the truth. You are boderline on the young side.
If you are hell bent. You better start off with a basic Test only!!!! cycle.

You have to get to know the sides. You start taking all this stuff, Holly Shit.
You should find some one to deal with in person. You will need proper diet
blood work, you just can't start first cycle at 20 like that. You can't start a first cycle at 30 like that either. Remember I'm the one that told you test
only for first cycle.

[malone65]

i herd that Equipoise is really good with litle side-effects what about that with some Testosterone-Proprionate

[Ufa]

i herd that Equipoise is really good with litle side-effects what about that with some Testosterone-Proprionate

That would be a good second cycle. See what this does to you first. You
got a huge body. You don't want to mess it up. Dam, you can make the pro's with out any thing. All Jose Conseco did was a little test and GH. Granted he later used a couple of water based things while he was practicing.

[fudgedelic]

Don't be so dependant on what you read in steroid profiles. There are a lot of mentions on how this stacks with that and such but that's not what you need at this point. Don't get caught up in stacks and sides, low dose of test should have minimal sides anyways. From the sounds of it nothing is going to stop you from starting juice so you might as well start right. Keep it small, keep it simple, start with test and a long time down the road you can work up from that. You'll thank yourself in the end.

[Undecided09]

Not Test Prop, that needs to be injected everyday, you can get away with Test E 500 mg once per week for 12 weeks...Secondly bro I don't know why you want to juice, and I'm not gonna give you the your too young shpeel cause Im a sophomore in college...But dude the only reason I am even considering it is because I'm 5'8" 175, dude your 6'3" 300 plus, thats a huge base to build from and work with, I would kill to have that size naturally, matter of fact, that is alot of the reason why people juice because they arent naturally as big as you are, you already have the advantage you dont need the juice...However, If you choose to disregard...go with Test E only to start....

[topvega]

Putting aside your age... this wld be your first cycle so the word stack shldn't even be in the equation.... yes prop has the least sides when shot ed but injecting ed gets old quick.... and u need quite a few injection sites to avoid oil build up which can cause an abcess.... 500mg of test e or c shot twice a week wld be the best for a first cycle.... if u are hell bent on a kick start then dbol 30/40mg ed for the first 4 weeks split the dose into 3 doses a day... and run a liver protectant like milk thistle....

[thunderdan]

Do you have to worrie about detection? If so that could effect what kind of gear you would use. I suggest a test only cycle. You can make good gains. If you are bent on doing them then do it safely and learn from those who have been doing gear for awhile. Start on the gear slow. Test only and If you were going to add anything it I would add anavar. A mild steroid. Good luck.

[malone65]

thanks for all the help so far, iam not takeing them to get bigger if any thing i would like to get more cut but i know that it is hard to get strong and lose weight at the same time thats y i was thinking about the Equipoise b/c it dose not get u that big and it gives u a lot of strength