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Thread: Pre-Summer cycle....critique please

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    Pre-Summer cycle....critique please

    Ok,


    I was going to get back on anavar, but I realized that for the doses I want (60mg ED) it would cost a freakin SHITLOAD. That being said, I am not considering

    D-Bol jumpstart
    500mg/week Test E (10 weeks)
    Winny for the last 5-6 weeks (50mg ED)

    What I am concerned about, heading into April, is that I will resemble the stay puff mashmellow man from the E. I don't want to inject frequently so prop is out of the question.

    Would I be better off with something else? I am going to run clen with my pct and kick up the cardio at the end. I require a decent beach physique.

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    Enanthate should be fine ,whats ur stats ?

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    Ya the cycle looks fine, as far as bloating just watch your sodium intake, drink a lot of water and use a good AI.

    -Bino

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    5'8 200lbs

    First cycle was 2 years ago, sust/winny. did some m1t/4derm, and some anavar since then but nothing hardcore.

    Right now, I definitely need to lose some fat. If I dropped about 15lbs I think i would be close to shredded. All the fat is concentrated in my waist area. Elsewhere I am tight and vascular. I have some pics posted from way back when on here in the member's pics section. I don't look too different now, but just a little softer since I was trying to bulk naturally all winter.

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    That is 9-10 weeks (if you d-bol 4 weeks) of 17-aa steroids. Be careful, and watch for sides.
    Even at moderate doses, it is generally frowned upon.
    Four to six weeks is usually plenty.

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    so what would you recommend? I remembered how long shit took to start working (with the sust), so I figured it could only help.

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    sust retains less water than test e

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    Quote Originally Posted by Act of God
    so what would you recommend? I remembered how long shit took to start working (with the sust), so I figured it could only help.
    I'm not saying not to jumpstart.
    Maybe cut out the Winni. If you are dead-set on using it, cut it back a week or two. And maybe take a week off the d-bol. The Sust should be kicking pretty well by week 3.
    Just consider your liver!

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    well I was going to do test E only this time. I didn't really like the sust when I did it. I ran it at 500mg a week (2 injections a week) and when i came off it i had the worst acne i ever had (only on my back). I figured since sust had all the different esters ending at all the different times, my blood levels were probably jumping all over the place. I figured a single ester test would give me more stable blood levels and, hopefully, less bacne.

    I'd cut out the dbol before I cut out the winny i think. I just have never popped dbols before and I am actually kinda curious about them.

    Hosam - is that true? I was pretty bloated on sust, I can't imagine it being any worse on E

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    D-bol seriously kicks ass as a start to a cycle. You will have extra OOMPF! in the gym and will recover much more quickly as you wait for the E to kick in strong. I was very impressed when I jumped last time. Maybe a couple weeks D-bol and 4 Winni at the end.
    Good luck with your cycle.
    Quote Originally Posted by Act of God
    well I was going to do test E only this time. I didn't really like the sust when I did it. I ran it at 500mg a week (2 injections a week) and when i came off it i had the worst acne i ever had (only on my back). I figured since sust had all the different esters ending at all the different times, my blood levels were probably jumping all over the place. I figured a single ester test would give me more stable blood levels and, hopefully, less bacne.

    I'd cut out the dbol before I cut out the winny i think. I just have never popped dbols before and I am actually kinda curious about them.

    Hosam - is that true? I was pretty bloated on sust, I can't imagine it being any worse on E

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    Stackertoo made a good point about hepatotoxic compounds. However, I dont personally think 10 weeks will kill you, I have seen worse. But that being said please be good to your liver and run Milk Thistle, I would suggest 1000mg a day, and even begin to run it prior to cycle and begin increasing you water intake prior to cycle and while on just to make sure your liver is good to go. And just watch out for signs of liver failure: jaundice (yellowing of the skin, eyes) and itchy skin can also be a sign.

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    milk thistle would always be a part of any cycle i did. I was under the impression that winstrol wasn't THAT bad on the liver. I just want to make sure that I look ok at the end, since I'm cutting it dangerously close to beach season

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