please critique

**mikears** · 03-25-2006, 02:51 PM

week 1-12 - 750mg enathate per week
week 1-3 - 100mg prop ed
week 1-5 - 600 mg deca per week
week 5-12 - 600 mg eq per week
week 1-8 - 100 mg tren E eod
week 8-14 - 50 mg winny ed
week 1-12 clen 2 week on/off
week 1-12 - aromasin 20 mg ed
pct

i would also like to add anavar into my cycle, any suggestions on how i should run it throughout the cycle??

i'm 6'1" 218 lbs

would you add/take away from this cycle???? any suggestions would be greatly appreciated thanks im looking to gain mass and get lean

**Booz** · 03-25-2006, 02:53 PM

thats a lot of different compounds mate what are you stats and training/cycle history..............................?

**QuieTSToRM33** · 03-25-2006, 02:56 PM

damn thats a lot of shit ............. stats/cycle exp ?????????

**topvega** · 03-25-2006, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by mikears

week 1-12 - 750mg enathate per week
week 1-3 - 100mg prop ed
week 1-5 - 600 mg deca per week way too shortweek 5-12 - 600 mg eq per weekway too shortweek 1-8 - 100 mg tren E eod
week 8-14 - 50 mg winny ed
week 1-12 clen 2 week on/off
week 1-12 - aromasin 20 mg ed
pct

i would also like to add anavar into my cycle, any suggestions on how i should run it throughout the cycle??

i'm 6'1" 218 lbs

would you add/take away from this cycle???? any suggestions would be greatly appreciated thanks im looking to gain mass and get lean

Needs work.... 5 weeks of deca and only 8 weeks of eq??? tren e eod?

**mikears** · 03-25-2006, 02:58 PM

this will be my 6 th cycle. previous cycles have included the above except for the tren e. i wanted to do eq throughout the entire cycle but i got some deca off a buddy for dirt cheap. diet is healthy and im in the gym 5-6 days a week

**QuieTSToRM33** · 03-25-2006, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by topvega

Needs work.... 5 weeks of deca and only 8 weeks of eq??? tren e eod?

i was waiting for this stats to get to that ...

**mikears** · 03-25-2006, 03:00 PM

should i be running the tren e ed??? and is 8 weeks good enough?

**topvega** · 03-25-2006, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by mikears

should i be running the tren e ed??? and is 8 weeks good enough?

I don't run deca for less then 12 weeks or eq for less then 15 weeks.... tren e is a long estered tren so u don't need to shoot it so often... if this is your first time with tren i wld go with tren-a shot ed, so that u can fine tune your dosage if sides get to be bad...

**topvega** · 03-25-2006, 03:07 PM

even for a 6th cycle i think this is over kill... too many compounds...

**taiboxa** · 03-25-2006, 03:09 PM

u got alot of research to do bub... there are alot of miss'use of compounds in thta cycle.

**Booz** · 03-25-2006, 03:09 PM

STATS..................please......

**mikears** · 03-25-2006, 03:11 PM

thanks a lot as far as the tren a how many mg should i shoot a day 50 mg or 100 mg? also wht is your take on anavar ??

**topvega** · 03-25-2006, 03:13 PM

I think everyone is waiting on stats..........

**mikears** · 03-25-2006, 03:15 PM

6'1
218 lbs
17 in arms
46 in chest

**Booz** · 03-25-2006, 03:18 PM

the cycle is all wrong mate...5 weeks deca and 8 weeks eq?neither is being run long enuff..deca at least 10 weeks,eq at least 12 weeks...............the timing at the end is all wrong also....wheres your pct.....i take it you know about pct??

**mikears** · 03-25-2006, 03:23 PM

takin vega's advice and running eq weeks 1-15 @ 600mg per week so far ive gotten clomid and waiting on my source for hcg . wht do u mean by the timing is wrong at the end?? wht would u suggest?

**Booz** · 03-25-2006, 03:27 PM

1-4 100mg ed prop
1-13 750mg test e
1-12 600mg eq
11-15 50mg winny ed
start clomid therapy the day after the last administration of winny.............
ive left the deca out as i think you have too many compounds in there...if you want more bulk put the deca in and run it for the same length as i have done for the eq..............................

**Booz** · 03-25-2006, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by mikears

takin vega's advice and running eq weeks 1-15 @ 600mg per week so far ive gotten clomid and waiting on my source for hcg. wht do u mean by the timing is wrong at the end?? wht would u suggest?

timing is when you get the active lifes of everything you are running to finish the same time so you can start pct...............you had the timings all wrong...they are correct in the cycle i have posted..

**taiboxa** · 03-25-2006, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by booz

timing is when you get the active lifes of everything you are running to finish the same time so you can start pct...............you had the timings all wrong...they are correct in the cycle i have posted..

but w/ tren /deca the metabo's kan hang around and suppress recovery thus iwould suggest test much longer than either of the previous two

**QuieTSToRM33** · 03-25-2006, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by booz

1-4 100mg ed prop
1-13 750mg test e
1-12 600mg eq
11-15 50mg winny ed
start clomid therapy the day after the last administration of winny.............
ive left the deca out as i think you have too many compounds in there...if you want more bulk put the deca in and run it for the same length as i have done for the eq..............................

good call booz .............. like booz said if u want more of a bulker, replace the EQ with the deca

**mikears** · 03-25-2006, 03:34 PM

thanks booz so u wouldnt bother with the tren e or add anavar ??

**taiboxa** · 03-25-2006, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by mikears

thanks booz so u wouldnt bother with the tren e or add anavar??

give var to ur woman and save tren for next cycle

**mikears** · 03-25-2006, 03:37 PM

looking to put on some size but main goal is to get leaner

**Booz** · 03-25-2006, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by mikears

thanks booz so u wouldnt bother with the tren e or add anavar??

lol i forgot about the tren and var.........im getting tired......old.....
have you ran tren before?

**taiboxa** · 03-25-2006, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by mikears

looking to put on some size but main goal is to get leaner

you can put size on w/ both but deca is WAYYY more potent than EQ for gains.. and if ur diet is spot on u kan get better results w/ deca.

only difference in the two is deca bloats usually and EQ will dry you out making u look leaner but bf% will remain the same and in Deca's case it will actually reduce bf by putting on water and muscle mass.

**mikears** · 03-25-2006, 03:39 PM

no i have never ran tren b4

**Booz** · 03-25-2006, 03:44 PM

well if you have not run tren i would not jump straight in with the longer acting ester version....id get some acetate and run 50-75mg ed for the 1st 10 weeks.................if you do make sure you run some hcg throughout your cycle as tren and this applies to deca also shuts you down very hard....the hcg will help with this...........................