My first real cycle

**pc_genius** · 03-29-2006, 02:30 PM

I just took my first shot of Omna and, i'm very, very happy! It was also my first "self-made" shoot in my as! It was hard to push the needle in, but i found it to be painless!
Sorry for that "lyrical digression"!
I want just to ask you if my cycle is good choice for a begginer?
2x1ml Omna/week for 12 weeks
20mg d-bol/day 1-4 week
pct based on nolva and clomid starting 2 weeks after my last Omna shot

I'm 20, training on and off for about 8 years, 85kg, 183cm, like 7-8% bodyfat!

**1buffsob** · 03-29-2006, 02:33 PM

I don't like multiple estered compounds in beginners cycles (Sustanon or Omna for example). But since you've already started, I guess it's too late. Cycle looks fine but your d-bol is on the low side for a kick start.

**pc_genius** · 03-29-2006, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by 1buffsob

I don't like multiple estered compounds in beginners cycles (Sustanon or Omna for example). But since you've already started, I guess it's too late. Cycle looks fine but your d-bol is on the low side for a kick start.

I don't like multiple estered compounds too, but Omna was the only thing, that i could get from a safe source - the pharmacy! (sorry for this bad english, i hope you can get my point)

**1buffsob** · 03-29-2006, 02:49 PM

English is better than most Americans, so no worry

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Are you running an anti-e durring your cycle?

**fhorst** · 03-29-2006, 02:59 PM

Omna is OK. just shoot it at least EOD, so 3 shots per week.
The short ester in there has a active life of 2 to 3 days.
Also 500mg of omna is a bit little, I'll chose 750..

And put in some anti-e's!
I know you can buy Clomid at teh pharmacy in Bulgaria. Not sure about Nolvadex or Letro. But Clomid should be no problem.

**pc_genius** · 03-29-2006, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by 1buffsob

English is better than most Americans, so no worry

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Are you running an anti-e durring your cycle?

I want to run anti-e during this cycle, but i don't have access to goodies like Letro, a-dex, proviron ! I can only get some nolva but i dunno if it helps with estrogen related sides (bloat, high bood pressure...)!
What else can i use?

**pc_genius** · 03-29-2006, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by fhorst

Omna is OK. just shoot it at least EOD, so 3 shots per week.
The short ester in there has a active life of 2 to 3 days.
Also 500mg of omna is a bit little, I'll chose 750..

And put in some anti-e's!
I know you can buy Clomid at teh pharmacy in Bulgaria. Not sure about Nolvadex or Letro. But Clomid should be no problem.

I can use clomid during my cycle, but is it worth it?
I thought bout my Omna dose and still wondering 500 or 750 per week!

**1buffsob** · 03-29-2006, 03:16 PM

I don't know if I'd go 750mg ew for a beginner. Maybe booz can throw in his 2 cents.

**fhorst** · 03-29-2006, 03:25 PM

For the high blood pressure (if you are prone to that) you can take some "baby / kids" asperine at night.

I would buy some Nolva AND Clomid. Take 10mg of nolva duting the cycle and 50mg of clomid. If you are prone to Gyno, better buy some letro from our sponsors. Good and cheap compared to adex. (also better don't run the Nolva with Letro)

Anyway, test is test, and the more you use, the better your gains are.
But if you only look at the long time ester yuo need to take 750 to have aprox the same levels as with test-e e.g. (but you will start to grow sooner.. so in the end........)
Anyway if you can afford the extra amps, it will do you only good.

(I have some Nolva from Hungary, and that was dirt cheap! )

I guess it all depends if you have a creditcard

then life can be simple..
I know some cheap pharmacies (india) on the internet, they have no gear e.g., but do have nolva, clomid, finesteride, etc etc etc for a good price. sent me a PM if you need that info.

During PCT I would boost the dosage of teh Clomid to 150mg and the Nolva 20mg.
Also get some HCG (also availeble in your pharmacy) to get your boys working again

**fhorst** · 03-29-2006, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by 1buffsob

I don't know if I'd go 750mg ew for a beginner. Maybe booz can throw in his 2 cents.

Depending on how you look at it.

Would you suggest 500 test-e?

250mg Omna = 100mg test cyp so with 750 you only inject 300 long time esters.
with adding the rest, you come to about 500mg a week effective test, with the BIG difference that with Omna it kicks in after 2 to 3 weeks and with Test-e it kicks in after 5 ot 6 weeks.

With omna you have on a 12 week cycle 3 to 4 weeks more gaining time

**mr. snakes** · 03-29-2006, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by pc_genius

I just took my first shot of Omna and, i'm very, very happy! It was also my first "self-made" shoot in my as! It was hard to push the needle in, but i found it to be painless!
Sorry for that "lyrical digression"!
I want just to ask you if my cycle is good choice for a begginer?
2x1ml Omna/week for 12 weeks
20mg d-bol/day 1-4 week
pct based on nolva and clomid starting 2 weeks after my last Omna shot

I'm 20, training on and off for about 8 years, 85kg, 183cm, like 7-8% bodyfat!

Looks good, i would bump the D-bol to 30mg ED............

**trulbfan3** · 03-29-2006, 09:46 PM

kik the dbol up to 40mgs a day and youll be happy. good growing bro

**pc_genius** · 03-29-2006, 11:42 PM

Thanks for helping me guys! I really apreciate your quick response!
Think i'll run 750mg Omna/week injecting eod, 30mg/day d-bol first 4 weeks!
During the cycle i'll run 10mg nolva and 50mg clomid ed!

PP - this morning there is some pain in my glute, but its nothing to worry about! I think i'll handle eod inj., but i have to learn how to inject other injection sites than my glute!

I'll keep you posted this time felas!

**pc_genius** · 03-31-2006, 12:12 PM

Ooh, my as sore like hell all day long! Is that normal with Omna, or is it just me so sensitive

!
I'm gonna do my second shot in about 1 hour, but i'll try using larger needle (21g maybe), cause it took me ages to push that 1ml Omna the first time with 22gx needle!

**Gra** · 03-31-2006, 12:32 PM

It`s normal to be sore. U can try to heat it up a bit before injecting. Makes it alot easier.

**pc_genius** · 03-31-2006, 12:59 PM

I want to run some b-12 with the gear and i'm wondering if i can put the b-12 in the same syringe with my Omna? (my b-12 (the solution) is red-coloured if it matters)

***Alex*** · 03-31-2006, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by pc_genius

Thanks for helping me guys! I really apreciate your quick response!
Think i'll run 750mg Omna/week injecting eod, 30mg/day d-bol first 4 weeks!
During the cycle i'll run 10mg nolva and 50mg clomid ed!

PP - this morning there is some pain in my glute, but its nothing to worry about! I think i'll handle eod inj., but i have to learn how to inject other injection sites than my glute!

I'll keep you posted this time felas!

DO NOT TAKE CLOMID DURING THE CYCLE! clomid is used for pct!10mg nolva during the cycle is fine, bump it up to 20mg on pct!

**pc_genius** · 03-31-2006, 03:04 PM

Just took my second shot of Omna

!
Bump for my b-12 question

!

to alex7674, why not to use clomid during the cycle?

**mr. snakes** · 03-31-2006, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by pc_genius

I want to run some b-12 with the gear and i'm wondering if i can put the b-12 in the same syringe with my Omna? (my b-12 (the solution) is red-coloured if it matters)

There's no harm in that.............

**pc_genius** · 04-02-2006, 03:42 PM

Guys, my ass sore like hell and i'm wonderin if i can handle this eod inj with my Omna! I dunno if i can squat and deadlift tomorrow!
However, my strength is rising - maybe mental, but true for me

!
I hope adding b-12 to my omna in the syringe will help reducing post inj pain

!

**pattymac931** · 04-02-2006, 04:00 PM

its just from the alcohol content in the om

**mr. snakes** · 04-02-2006, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by pc_genius

Guys, my ass sore like hell and i'm wonderin if i can handle this eod inj with my Omna! I dunno if i can squat and deadlift tomorrow!
However, my strength is rising - maybe mental, but true for me

!
I hope adding b-12 to my omna in the syringe will help reducing post inj pain

!

Your ass will get use to it..................

**fhorst** · 04-03-2006, 09:18 AM

pain will get less after the first shot. First one hurts, second one is painfull, third one you hardly feel.

**pc_genius** · 04-03-2006, 01:48 PM

Tonight, i'm gonna do my 3d omna shot and think of doing it in my delt, cause my left and right glute are still sore and swollen!
It will be my first delt shot and i want to be sure of what i'm gonna do! So, please give me some advices/tips on doing that thin right!

**pc_genius** · 04-04-2006, 10:32 AM

Thanks for the help, m8s

!
I did it glute anyway! I mixed the omna with b-12, heated it, inj. slowly! Today, there is no pain in my ass, thanks GOD!
I felt my pumps increased today, the strength too! I think i'm gonna love this eod omna

!

**pc_genius** · 04-05-2006, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by pc_genius

please give me some advices/tips on doing proper delt shot!

bump

**pc_genius** · 04-07-2006, 01:19 PM

Ok, if this is so hard for you to help the poor guy with the delt shots

!
I dropped the d-bol cause it is fake (i sent it to my friend's lab and he found it was bogus)! Now i'm doing Omna only!
Today the pumps and strength were incredible! I feel the Omna is kicking in!

**pc_genius** · 04-09-2006, 11:22 AM

Like i said, i'll keep you posted

: !
inj. soreness is not going down

anyway, it is worth the pain
12 days in this cycle and i'm already 7lbs heavier
i improve my personal records ed
today i did my best in the deadlift - 330lbs for 10 reps
and in the barbel row - 220lbs for 10 reps
tomorrow, we'll se how it goes with my bench

**ianchov** · 04-10-2006, 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by fhorst

For the high blood pressure (if you are prone to that) you can take some "baby / kids" asperine at night.

I would buy some Nolva AND Clomid. Take 10mg of nolva duting the cycle and 50mg of clomid. If you are prone to Gyno, better buy some letro from our sponsors. Good and cheap compared to adex. (also better don't run the Nolva with Letro)

Anyway, test is test, and the more you use, the better your gains are.
But if you only look at the long time ester yuo need to take 750 to have aprox the same levels as with test-e e.g. (but you will start to grow sooner.. so in the end........)
Anyway if you can afford the extra amps, it will do you only good.

(I have some Nolva from Hungary, and that was dirt cheap! )

I guess it all depends if you have a creditcard

then life can be simple..
I know some cheap pharmacies (india) on the internet, they have no gear e.g., but do have nolva, clomid, finesteride, etc etc etc for a good price. sent me a PM if you need that info.

During PCT I would boost the dosage of teh Clomid to 150mg and the Nolva 20mg.
Also get some HCG (also availeble in your pharmacy) to get your boys working again

How one should inject HCG during OMNA only cycle?

**testosterona** · 04-10-2006, 01:27 AM

omna's are painless iv found. that's weird they hurt you so bad.........oh, and you'll love 750mgs wk. i hope your bulking!

**pc_genius** · 04-12-2006, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by testosterona

omna's are painless iv found. that's weird they hurt you so bad.........oh, and you'll love 750mgs wk. i hope your bulking!

Yeah, i love this stuff at 750mg/week and yes, of course i'm bulking

!
Today i did my shoulder presses with 155lbs for 10 reps and i'm very happy with that!
I think of running proviron through the rest of the cycle at 50mg/day! What do you think bout that! Is it good for the bloat and for some extra hardening!