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    Question Tren/Prop Cycle?

    Is Trenbolone -Acetate and Testoserone- Propionate a good first cycle?

    I was thinking about a 8 Week Cycle

    Prop 100mg ED

    Tren 75mg ED

    HCG /Novla for PCT, Start PCT 3 days after last Test shot right?

    I was going to homebrew also...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJUnleased
    Is Trenbolone -Acetate and Testoserone- Propionate a good first cycle?

    I was thinking about a 8 Week Cycle

    Prop 100mg ED

    Tren 75mg ED

    HCG /Novla for PCT, Start PCT 3 days after last Test shot right?

    I was going to homebrew also...
    No bro, stay with testo only.
    Skip tren and go on with the cycle plan its good to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kappa Capo
    No bro, stay with testo only.
    Skip tren and go on with the cycle plan its good to go.
    ...I strongly agree......

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    Save tren for future cycles and stick with test. Are you cool with ed injections (also prop pain), because that seems to be the biggest concern with prop cycles for beginners?

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    So I should just do a cycle on Prop alone..

    Prop 100mg ED for 8 Weeks then Start PCT 3 days after last prop shot. Run PCT for 1 month right?

    I have no problem with ED injections...

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    for a first one I would just run test e or c...

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    I have no access to test e or c, but that would be the better choice

    Im homebrewing with synovex-h

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJUnleased
    So I should just do a cycle on Prop alone..

    Prop 100mg ED for 8 Weeks then Start PCT 3 days after last prop shot. Run PCT for 1 month right?

    I have no problem with ED injections...
    I'd recommend you stay with just test for 8-10 wks. Start your PCT three days after last shot (if you decide to run prop) and run PCT for 4 weeks or how ever long it takes for you to come back. Don't limit yourself to 4 weeks, some people need to go longer/shorter.

    Good luck with those ed injections. I love them

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    always run test longer than 10 weeks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by goalseeker
    always run test longer than 10 weeks...
    I believe prop is an exception to that rule, but yes, in the case of long estered tests, at least 10 weeks.

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    Im running my prop for 12..... But of course everyone is different.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by goalseeker
    Im running my prop for 12..... But of course everyone is different.....
    Yes bro, 12weeks is long time with prop

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    Your right....but this comes from test c taking me 12 weeks to hit....just felt it then had to end the cycle.. bummer.. lol

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    16 weeks of prop here, but I'm a little nuts.

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    What kind of gains/fat loss can I expect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJUnleased
    Is Trenbolone -Acetate and Testoserone- Propionate a good first cycle?

    I was thinking about a 8 Week Cycle

    Prop 100mg ED

    Tren 75mg ED

    HCG /Novla for PCT, Start PCT 3 days after last Test shot right?

    I was going to homebrew also...

    Start off by taking 50mg ED of tren with the 100mg of prop. So you can see if you can handle tren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJUnleased
    What kind of gains/fat loss can I expect?
    I have run prop only....If you are bulking, maybe 18 lbs, keeping 12 or 13 on a 10 wk cycle. Atleast that is what I typically see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1buffsob
    16 weeks of prop here, but I'm a little nuts.

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    no pun intended? lol

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    Testosterone , once in the body, can be converted to both estrogen (via a process known as aromatization) as well as DHT. Estrogen is the main culprit for many side effects such as gyno, water retention, etc...while DHT is often blamed for hair loss and prostate enlargement. Naturally there are ways to combat this, such as using an anti-estrogenic compound along with testosterone, or even an estrogen blocker

    Should I cycle test prop with Anastrozole, Clomid, or Proviron during the cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJUnleased
    Testosterone , once in the body, can be converted to both estrogen (via a process known as aromatization) as well as DHT. Estrogen is the main culprit for many side effects such as gyno, water retention, etc...while DHT is often blamed for hair loss and prostate enlargement. Naturally there are ways to combat this, such as using an anti-estrogenic compound along with testosterone, or even an estrogen blocker

    Should I cycle test prop with Anastrozole, Clomid, or Proviron during the cycle?
    Why bro?
    **** AI and SERMS, do it simple and add some nolva if you are sensitive to gyno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJUnleased
    Testosterone , once in the body, can be converted to both estrogen (via a process known as aromatization) as well as DHT. Estrogen is the main culprit for many side effects such as gyno, water retention, etc...while DHT is often blamed for hair loss and prostate enlargement. Naturally there are ways to combat this, such as using an anti-estrogenic compound along with testosterone, or even an estrogen blocker

    Should I cycle test prop with Anastrozole, Clomid, or Proviron during the cycle?
    Arimidex & Dutasteride............

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    Is an anti estrogen a must for test prop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJUnleased
    Is an anti estrogen a must for test prop?
    I only use it if i get gynosigns(never happend) so try it with out but have nolva handy if you get signs of gyno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJUnleased
    Is an anti estrogen a must for test prop?
    you dont need it... just have it on hand.. u actually want estrogen.. it will help w/ your mass/str gains and your lipid profile. if u nips get puffy or itch use nolva if u get insanely bloated run an AI

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    yeah and it helps with colesterol. I would rather have gone with testo E the first time, less stabbin`

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