Running letro please help?

[ACE5HIGH]

Ive developed a slight case of what I think is gyno from a PP cycle after my PCT.

Ive ordered some letro to be safe about it but cant find anything in the search about how to run letro in this case.

I understand there is a rebound effect to avoid, Id like to stick to a minimum doseage if possable because as I said its only slight case of sore nips, any help is appreciated.

[ACE5HIGH]

Does Ne one Know how letro should be run???

[pmorris]

.... letro is for (estrogen) and it is really strong. bloat you need nolvadex for gyno. thats why you do research before you do a cycle.

[rast4man]

Letro is for progesterone related gyno symptoms. Typical doses are 2.5mg for 5 days and then 1.25mg for 9 days for a total of 14 days. (This is what works for me on multiple compound cycles; Test, Anadrol, Deca, Tren)

Remember too, running Nolva with an AI such as Letro has absolutely no effect, so stick with the Letro.

[vnv]

Remember too, running Nolva with an AI such as Letro has absolutely no effect, so stick with the Letro.

And how do you figure that?

[ACE5HIGH]

.... letro is for (estrogen) and it is really strong. bloat you need nolvadex for gyno. thats why you do research before you do a cycle.

I have done more then my share of research on it. And nolvadex if for prevention of Gyno BTW (which I already have). I need a reversal protocal.
Comon guys...

[ACE5HIGH]

Letro is for progesterone related gyno symptoms. Typical doses are 2.5mg for 5 days and then 1.25mg for 9 days for a total of 14 days. (This is what works for me on multiple compound cycles; Test, Anadrol, Deca, Tren)

Remember too, running Nolva with an AI such as Letro has absolutely no effect, so stick with the Letro.

Im planning on running it alone for gyno reversal, would I use the same dose as if I were on a test cycle?

[MAXIMA5]

.... letro is for (estrogen) and it is really strong. bloat you need nolvadex for gyno. thats why you do research before you do a cycle.

Maybe you should have researched this yourself.

Nolvadex is for prevention, and letro is the only thing that can treat an existing case.

Know what you're talking about before you post.

And just for the record, Nolvadex will reduce the effectiveness of letro, so run letro solo. Then taper down off of it when the gyno is gone or your estro will rebound hard. then, when you are weaned off the letro, take nolva again at 20mgED

And ACE, C-Bino has a thread on treating gyno with letro. I'll see if I can find it for you.

[C_Bino]

First of all ACE5HIGH, you already made a thread about this in the PCT forum, I gave you all the answers you need. Next time try checking your other thread before you waste others time and space on the board. And no im not gettin mad at you personally, but people need to have so patience around here and stop making 3 threads about the same thing.

pmorris, you are just blantantly wrong. So you need to do some more research actually.
Rast4man you are wrong also. Letro is not for progesterone gyno alone, it is used to inhibit estrogen production, therefore it is used for a number of different things. Also, the "typical" doses you speak of, what are they typical for? Certainly not anti-e protection or gyno reversal...If it has worked for you as you say that is fine, but it is not typical in any case that I can think of.

[C_Bino]

Maybe you should have researched this yourself.

Nolvadex is for prevention, and letro is the only thing that can treat an existing case.

Know what you're talking about before you post.

And just for the record, Nolvadex will reduce the effectiveness of letro, so run letro solo. Then taper down off of it when the gyno is gone or your estro will rebound hard. then, when you are weaned off the letro, take nolva again at 20mgED

And ACE, C-Bino has a thread on treating gyno with letro. I'll see if I can find it for you.

LOL. Damn you beat me to it bro. I posted a few links I wrote about letro, nolva, and gyno is ACE5HIGH's other thread in the PCT section. It can be found there.

[MAXIMA5]

Bino,
I figured you'd drop bombs on this thread sooner or later. lol

[C_Bino]

I figured you'd drop bombs on this thread sooner or later. lol

LOL. Man gyno has become such a huge thing around here as of late and I think its a big deal because so many people dont know about it and then give wrong advice, then someone takes that bad advice and passes it on and on and its just keeps going. I try to post in every single gyno thread I can find hoping one day people start to catch on.

[Flexx167]

thanks c-bino its good to know that someone here know's there shit, thanks for the help.

[rast4man]

If you would have read that as it should have been read C Bino, you would notice that in my post, I certainly added that it is waht WORKS FOR ME. If you cared to use pubmed.com and read some of the studies and research papers regarding Letro, you will find that it hasn't (obviously) been use for steroid induced gyno. However, there are studies with men whom have breast cancer and the effects of Letro with them. Between the women and the men in the respective cases, the dose of Letro is 2.5mg. Some cases it is tapered and others the 2.5mg is ran for 3 months.

Finally, my post regarding progesterone related gyno was the experience in which I have experience from. Mainly from Tren. So I don't think I am "wrong" as you are saying, I just stated my experience from it and that is where I stand.

[C_Bino]

If you would have read that as it should have been read C Bino, you would notice that in my post, I certainly added that it is waht WORKS FOR ME. If you cared to use pubmed.com and read some of the studies and research papers regarding Letro, you will find that it hasn't (obviously) been use for steroid induced gyno. However, there are studies with men whom have breast cancer and the effects of Letro with them. Between the women and the men in the respective cases, the dose of Letro is 2.5mg. Some cases it is tapered and others the 2.5mg is ran for 3 months.

Finally, my post regarding progesterone related gyno was the experience in which I have experience from. Mainly from Tren. So I don't think I am "wrong" as you are saying, I just stated my experience from it and that is where I stand.

Ok well this is what I have to say. First of all we ARE talking about steroid related gyno. Therefore you should not recommend a certain protocol that is not pertaining to the subject at hand and let someone experience (like myself) handle it. And if YOU had read what I posted I acknowledged that this was your experience and its great if it worked for you but just pointed out that it was in no way "typical" as you claimed it was. Thanks.

[Jack Ruby]

letro will get you tits nice and dry ..just watch for the rebound its like rodman in the 90's

[rast4man]

Ok well this is what I have to say. First of all we ARE talking about steroid related gyno. Therefore you should not recommend a certain protocol that is not pertaining to the subject at hand and let someone experience (like myself) handle it. And if YOU had read what I posted I acknowledged that this was your experience and its great if it worked for you but just pointed out that it was in no way "typical" as you claimed it was. Thanks.

I'm not going to get into a long drawn out arguement about this, but let's touch on a few points (or lack thereof you make)

1. "Therefore you should not recommend a certain protocol that is not pertaining to the subject at hand and let someone experience (like myself) handle it."

1a. So obviously you are saying that I am not experienced in this area, is that what I am gathering? Let's move past that and get to the word "protocol" you used in that statement. I countered your statement with references to Letrozole and gynocomastia from Pubmed.com. If you go there, you will see the results from different studies done on both men and women with breast cancer which is the closest thing you will find to a study that is related to breast tissue and how Letro can abrogate it. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum

What I don't understand, is that you are saying I am wrong for recommending a protocol that in itself does not exist, but when I bring factual studies relating to breast tissue/adipose/gyno that are the closest thing to a protocol pertaining to Letro and Gyno, you denounce it and make it sound like I should move over and let someone like you with such experience "handle it"!?

I'm sorry sir, but I don't agree with you at all on this.

[briansauras]

correct me if im wrong c-bino,

taper it up .25,.5,1,1.5,2,2.5mg ED and stay at 2.5mg until it is gone and then taper down to 0.25 or 0.5mg.

[C_Bino]

correct me if im wrong c-bino,

taper it up .25,.5,1,1.5,2,2.5mg ED and stay at 2.5mg until it is gone and then taper down to 0.25 or 0.5mg.

Yes this is what I would suggest.

[C_Bino]

I'm not going to get into a long drawn out arguement about this, but let's touch on a few points (or lack thereof you make)

1. "Therefore you should not recommend a certain protocol that is not pertaining to the subject at hand and let someone experience (like myself) handle it."

1a. So obviously you are saying that I am not experienced in this area, is that what I am gathering? Let's move past that and get to the word "protocol" you used in that statement. I countered your statement with references to Letrozole and gynocomastia from Pubmed.com. If you go there, you will see the results from different studies done on both men and women with breast cancer which is the closest thing you will find to a study that is related to breast tissue and how Letro can abrogate it. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum

What I don't understand, is that you are saying I am wrong for recommending a protocol that in itself does not exist, but when I bring factual studies relating to breast tissue/adipose/gyno that are the closest thing to a protocol pertaining to Letro and Gyno, you denounce it and make it sound like I should move over and let someone like you with such experience "handle it"!?

I'm sorry sir, but I don't agree with you at all on this.

All Im saying is that the things you bring forth are treating breast cancer. This is NOT the topic at hand. Im done with you.

[rast4man]

You're done with me because breast cancer and abnormalaties in breast tissue are the only scientific research that can be linked with Letro. Your experience doesn't count as it's not a "normal protocol". Good day.

[MAXIMA5]

You're done with me because breast cancer and abnormalaties in breast tissue are the only scientific research that can be linked with Letro. Your experience doesn't count as it's not a "normal protocol". Good day.

Of course they are only going to conduct research on breast cancer. Most people are more concerned with treating cancer than steroid induced gyno.

I, personally, would consider gyno an "abnormality" caused by aromitase.

9 out of 10 experienced users on here will tell you than Bino's protocol works, which impresses me more than your isolated study.

[rast4man]

Of course they are only going to conduct research on breast cancer. Most people are more concerned with treating cancer than steroid induced gyno.

I, personally, would consider gyno an "abnormality" caused by aromitase.

9 out of 10 experienced users on here will tell you than Bino's protocol works, which impresses me more than your isolated study.

While I appreciate your opinion, I must say that it is a good thing that I'm not here to impress you, isn't it?

I and many other individuals have ran the Letro at a single 2.5mg starting dose and down to 1.25mg and finally off. There is no data supporting that amount of tapering (.25,.5,1,1.5,2,2.5mg ED and stay at 2.5mg) works any better than a simple full dose and split dose. Either way, I'm through with this page. I learned to post using studies relating to (or as close to) the subject at hand. I don't post to just post, I like to have data to back up my "claims". Good day gentlemen, and to the thread starter, sorry for making this confusing. Do what you feel is right in terms of running your Letro and best of luck to you.

[MAXIMA5]

While I appreciate your opinion, I must say that it is a good thing that I'm not here to impress you, isn't it?

I and many other individuals have ran the Letro at a single 2.5mg starting dose and down to 1.25mg and finally off. There is no data supporting that amount of tapering (.25,.5,1,1.5,2,2.5mg ED and stay at 2.5mg) works any better than a simple full dose and split dose. Either way, I'm through with this page. I learned to post using studies relating to (or as close to) the subject at hand. I don't post to just post, I like to have data to back up my "claims". Good day gentlemen, and to the thread starter, sorry for making this confusing. Do what you feel is right in terms of running your Letro and best of luck to you.

Your study is irrelevant, as it deals with women with breast cancer. We are not women, nor do we have breast cancer.

I have a study about hermaphroditic schizophrenic nazi penguins with three breasts, and it concludes that you should take your letro rectally with a turkey baster.

Now, I will attempt to sound as pretentious as you with my final farewell.
GOOD DAY TO YE, GENTLEMEN.

[C_Bino]

Your study is irrelevant, as it deals with women with breast cancer. We are not women, nor do we have breast cancer.

I have a study about hermaphroditic schizophrenic nazi penguins with three breasts, and it concludes that you should take your letro rectally with a turkey baster.

Now, I will attempt to sound as pretentious as you with my final farewell.
GOOD DAY TO YE, GENTLEMEN.

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA. OMG I said I wouldnt comment on this again because it was a waste of time but that was just too good to pass up. Turkey Baster

[ACE5HIGH]

First of all ACE5HIGH, you already made a thread about this in the PCT forum, I gave you all the answers you need. Next time try checking your other thread before you waste others time and space on the board. And no im not gettin mad at you personally, but people need to have so patience around here and stop making 3 threads about the same thing.

Sorry about the double post but I thought I would get a quicker responce in the steriod forum, and thanks for your help Bino.

I got my Letro today, and my last question is what is the dose of the pump on the letro, I read it was .25 mg per pump but I wanted to be sure.

Thanks again
-Ace

[TinTin78]

yes, it's 0.25 per pump

[Tren Bull]

Ive developed a slight case of what I think is gyno from a PP cycle after my PCT.

Ive ordered some letro to be safe about it but cant find anything in the search about how to run letro in this case.

I understand there is a rebound effect to avoid, Id like to stick to a minimum doseage if possable because as I said its only slight case of sore nips, any help is appreciated.

imo, a good way to run letro for treating gyno is to split it into 2 doses, one in the morning, and the other at night, preferably spaced 12 hours apart. the doses should each be 1.25 mgs, totalling 2.5 mgs a day. btw, letro takes a long time to stablaize in your blood, so you should order alot of it, youre probably gonna need to run it for awhile. also, its good that you are aware of the rebound effect of letro, taking it twice a day helps prevent the rebound effect, cause that way you can keep the letro levels very stable. be very carefull when coming off of it though, letro has a VERY severe rebound effect

[Dexta]

I think its .5 per bump...should be at 2.5 around day 4 or 5. at .25 you wouldnt be at 2.5 for 10 days

[brutesinme]

tren, i read that letro has a halflife measured in days, why is twice daily administration necessary for stable blood levels?

[Tren Bull]

tren, i read that letro has a halflife measured in days, why is twice daily administration necessary for stable blood levels?

i dont know if its necessary, but it couldn't hurt

[C_Bino]

i dont know if its necessary, but it couldn't hurt

That's true. I have always taken all of the letro dose at one time, before bed. But it cant hurt to split it up. If you are someone who forgets to take doses etc then jsut stick with once a day, this is perfectly fine.

[C_Bino]

Sorry about the double post but I thought I would get a quicker responce in the steriod forum, and thanks for your help Bino.

I got my Letro today, and my last question is what is the dose of the pump on the letro, I read it was .25 mg per pump but I wanted to be sure.

Thanks again
-Ace

Its ok man, just bump your other thread if you ever have problems, or shoot someone a PM. Did you atleast get the info I gave you in the other thread?

[ACE5HIGH]

Its ok man, just bump your other thread if you ever have problems, or shoot someone a PM. Did you atleast get the info I gave you in the other thread?

Yep, sure did, thx.