Stacking tren?

**STB** · 04-03-2006, 10:40 AM

Bros ~

I have my 4th cycle coming up in May as a lean mass cycle,(Dbol /Test/EQ/Tbol) and given the rep that Tren has for being the most body changing AAS out there, I was thinking about adding it to my summer stack.

So, a few Q's:

Is it foolish to stack Tren with EQ? Perhaps issues with Progestins?

Can tren be effectively used mid cycle for 6 weeks or so, or do you need to run 8-10 to gain true effectiveness?

Are sides on tren equated to the amount you use? In other words, 300mg/week is much more manageable than 500mg/wk?

Thanks,

Bluesman

**Mesomorphyl** · 04-03-2006, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by STB

Bros ~

I have my 4th cycle coming up in May as a lean mass cycle,(Dbol /Test/EQ/Tbol) and given the rep that Tren has for being the most body changing AAS out there, I was thinking about adding it to my summer stack.

So, a few Q's:

Is it foolish to stack Tren with EQ? NO Perhaps issues with Progestins? No added issues

Can tren be effectively used mid cycle for 6 weeks or so, or do you need to run 8-10 to gain true effectiveness? If acetate 6 weeks will work fine

Are sides on tren equated to the amount you use? I think so In other words, 300mg/week is much more manageable than 500mg/wk? Person dependant

Thanks,

Bluesman

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**taiboxa** · 04-03-2006, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl

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thats a pretty font...

and if its your first time running tren i would say shoot for around 350mg per week, if its acetate no need to jumpstart w/ dbol , adding to that stack is overkill IMO but if ur insistant just run tbol at the end after you finish tren.

**cherrypappa** · 04-04-2006, 12:40 AM

I love the tren /eq stack. I would use dostinex if you can afford it. Will help so much with the tren sides.

Tren dick sucks and takes a while to fix. Dostinex fixed this for me. Just saying.

**01dragonslayer** · 04-04-2006, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by STB

Bros ~

I have my 4th cycle coming up in May as a lean mass cycle,(Dbol /Test/EQ/Tbol) and given the rep that Tren has for being the most body changing AAS out there, I was thinking about adding it to my summer stack.

So, a few Q's:

Is it foolish to stack Tren with EQ? Perhaps issues with Progestins?

Can tren be effectively used mid cycle for 6 weeks or so, or do you need to run 8-10 to gain true effectiveness?

Are sides on tren equated to the amount you use? In other words, 300mg/week is much more manageable than 500mg/wk?

Thanks,

Bluesman

Tren and EQ ia a great combination. No problems with progestins, but always make sure you have everything if signs should arise.

6wks should be fine. Personally I would run it at the start(depending on length of your cycle) and get rid of the dbol.

Yep. The more you use...the stronger the sides. You can always adjust acoordingly.

**STB** · 04-04-2006, 09:13 AM

Thanks for the responses...

A few more questions.

If I went with BD's Tri-tren as opposed to straight Tren A, would it be less effective over the course of six weeks? Would it make sides less manageable due to the longer esters? (I am thinking to shoot E3D instead of ED. Tri-tren would be easier than Ace to avoid the pin cushion ass.)

If I am running 16 weeks, and run tren from 6-12, would this alleviate the possibility of tren dick and tren crash at the end?

What ancillaries are used to correct possible progestin sides?

How does dostinex help specifically with tren sides?

For the record, the proposed cycle would be something like this: (By the time week 6 comes around the water bloat from the dbol will be long gone, but it will do the job to jump start. Alos the reason I want to run tren in the middel is that I have found gains always stagnate for me at about week 8, and I beleive the tren will be the kick I need mid-cycle.)

1-4 25mg dbol
1-14 500mg test E
1-13 400mg EQ
6-12 300mg Tri-tren
13-16 40mg Tbol

Thanks,

Bluesman

**ivrig** · 04-04-2006, 09:24 AM

still have to shoot ed or eod with tri-tren to use the acetate ester! ED is best, i would just use tren a if i were you, or buy a vial with a, and if you handle the sides you can swith to a longer ester

**vitor** · 04-04-2006, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by 01dragonslayer

Tren and EQ ia a great combination. No problems with progestins, but always make sure you have everything if signs should arise.

6wks should be fine. Personally I would run it at the start(depending on length of your cycle) and get rid of the dbol .

Yep. The more you use...the stronger the sides. You can always adjust acoordingly.

I dont really see the point in stacking tren and eq together, only b/c since they hit the same recepter(androgen recepter.)

It would provide better "synergi" to stack Tren with a compound which is effective at the non-AR meditaded, IMO.

***BajanBastard*** · 04-04-2006, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by vitor

I dont really see the point in stacking tren and eq together, only b/c since they hit the same recepter(androgen recepter.)

It would provide better "synergi" to stack Tren with a compound which is effective at the non-AR meditaded, IMO.

I expected better from you Vitor. Are you saying tren should not be stacked with test? They hit the AR as well. Tren does a good job at using other non AR mediated muscle growth mechanisms of no exact 'need' to use another drug. Besides, using winny, d-drol, d-bol as a sub for EQ in this cycle, IMO is not the best idea.

BTW Use the acetate ester, that BD tri tren makes not sense and you'll get better results from the acetate.

**vitor** · 04-04-2006, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

I expected better from you Vitor. Are you saying tren should not be stacked with test? They hit the AR as well. Tren does a good job at using other non AR mediated muscle growth mechanisms of no exact 'need' to use another drug. Besides, using winny, d-drol, d-bol as a sub for EQ in this cycle, IMO is not the best idea.

BTW Use the acetate ester, that BD tri tren makes not sense and you'll get better results from the acetate.

I am saying there is no need to stack Tren with another class-1 steroid (with androgen recepter binding) Testosterone is the only sensible exeption. (Test is actually effective at the AR, and non-AR mechanism.)

I disagre with you, that it would be more effective to stack Tren with Eq, than winny or d-bol. Unlike eq, winny and d-bol will provide anabolic activity from a different angle when stacked with Tren.

**Mesomorphyl** · 04-04-2006, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by vitor

Unlike eq, winny and d-bol will provide anabolic activity from a different angle when stacked with Tren.

Utter BS

Or prove it with any study or clinical trial or hell get someone reputable to back that up...

Dbol is methylated EQ bud.

**Smedman101** · 04-04-2006, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl

Utter BS

Or prove it with any study or clinical trial or hell get someone reputable to back that up...

Dbol is methylated EQ bud.

**vitor** · 04-04-2006, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl

Utter BS

Or prove it with any study or clinical trial or hell get someone reputable to back that up...

Dbol is methylated EQ bud.

Do some research on recepter binding. I dont have the energy to explain this again...

D-bol is methylated Eq? What!!

**Smedman101** · 04-04-2006, 10:42 AM

Anabolic Review Steroid Profile: Equipoise (Boldenone Undeclynate)

I think that vitor should read this

**Swifto** · 04-04-2006, 10:43 AM

Quote from Hookers Profile on EQ:

"A simple way to think of Equipoise , chemically at least, is simply as Dianabol without the 17-alpha-methyl group (that’s the thing which makes D-bol able to be ingested orally and not be destroyed by your liver)."

***BajanBastard*** · 04-04-2006, 10:56 AM

Vitor buddy you seem to be behind the times a little bit. First that class 1/class 2 steroid theory has been proven to be bunk. You have to understand (I'm sure you do tho) that when androgens bind to the A.R on muscle and other tissues they produce different effects, so it does not matter if they both bind, they have different effects on muscle cell DNA.

***BajanBastard*** · 04-04-2006, 10:58 AM

I'd also like to add also that although D-bol (methandrostenolone ) is EQ (boldenone ) with a methyl group then are worlds apart.

**vitor** · 04-04-2006, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Swifto

Quote from Hookers Profile on EQ:

"A simple way to think of Equipoise , chemically at least, is simply as Dianabol without the 17-alpha-methyl group (that’s the thing which makes D-bol able to be ingested orally and not be destroyed by your liver)."

Well, be that as it may...

D-bol and Eq have different activity, and they bind to different recepter. Anyone who have tried both will see that they are nothing alike.

**ivrig** · 04-04-2006, 11:08 AM

true..
was it you who didnt recomend me to use primo and tren together? well it works like a biatch for me at least

**vitor** · 04-04-2006, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

Vitor buddy you seem to be behind the times a little bit. First that class 1/class 2 steroid theory has been proven to be bunk. You have to understand (I'm sure you do tho) that when androgens bind to the A.R on muscle and other tissues they produce different effects, so it does not matter if they both bind, they have different effects on muscle cell DNA.

I agree that two androgens that bind to the AR, can have slightly different effects on a muscle cell. I know for example that D-bol and winstrol do(even though, they have most of their effects at the non-AR meditaded.)

Ime yust saying that Tren and Eq is not a greate combination.

I stacked 1 gram Primo ew with tren one time(Primo a strong AR binder as well) and I had no effect at all from the Primo, which I added in later. Ive gotten much better results Stacking Tren with winstrol. Which makes alot more sense to me because of their binding.

**ivrig** · 04-04-2006, 11:17 AM

well few things beat tren /winny (and prop), but there`s something about primo and tren..digg it. good alternative since I hate being on winny cause of the blood fats..