coming down hard

[rookie23]

I have been reading around alot and i read that with tren and deca people say you come down hard. What does this mean im a little confused? Any help would be great?

[01dragonslayer]

'Shut down hard', 'come down hard', etc., are terms used with deca and tren because of the difficult time that many people have with recovering(PCT) from these two particular hormones.

[Swifto]

Its usually the speed at which these 2 Progestins shut down the HPTA. One single 100mg shot of Deca will completely lead to total testicular inhibition, before returning to baseline in 2-3 weeks. Tren is 5x more suppressive.

[rookie23]

thanks alot guys. You guys are really helping me through my experiences and are helping me learn alot. Thanks all of you. So tren is 5x worse then deca? Say your test levels hit bottom does it stay like that or can you get them back up with different medicines? Hpta meaning? and testicular inhibition? Im new so im just trying to learn some stuyff again i thank you guys for being patient.

[topvega]

thanks alot guys. You guys are really helping me through my experiences and are helping me learn alot. Thanks all of you. So tren is 5x worse then deca? Say your test levels hit bottom does it stay like that or can you get them back up with different medicines? Hpta meaning? and testicular inhibition? Im new so im just trying to learn some stuyff again i thank you guys for being patient.

Yeah that's the whole point behind pct...... to get your little chestnuts up and running again... the faster u can do that the easier it will be to keep your muscle gains and use your dick again....

[albert]

Yes PCT (post cycle therapy) is critical in any cycle or you are wasting your time and money doing a cycle. Also risking your heath.You need to learn all about that before starting any cycle. Good luck

[GetBiggg]

question here folks...

i'm running my Prop twice as long as i'm running the deca... 6 1/2 weeks tren, 12 weeks prop...

by the time PCT rolls around obviously the tren will have been out of my system for a while.. should I still have as many problems with the rebound?

last cycle I did deca and I will never touch the stuff again.. only test E one week longer though...

just wondering how running a test for a longer duration than tren, or deca would effect it...

[rookie23]

when using tren what is the best type of stuff to be used for the post cycle treatment?