first cycle of sust

**anheuser04** · 04-04-2006, 09:12 PM

I am on the second week of a ten week cycle and was just wondering if I should be stacking with something else and if so what? Can one of you guys give me some advise please?

**mkrulic** · 04-04-2006, 09:16 PM

how many shots a week are you taking? the general consensus is going to be to stick w/ test for a first cycle. and a single ester test at that.

**anheuser04** · 04-04-2006, 09:32 PM

Im doing 250 EOD is that a bad idea on my first cycle

**mkrulic** · 04-04-2006, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by anheuser04

Im doing 250 EOD is that a bad idea on my first cycle

That's about 875mg/week. I wouldnt call it a bad idea but dont put anything with it, its enough IMHO

**anheuser04** · 04-04-2006, 09:37 PM

ok cool thats what i needed to know. What kind of gains should i expect using it EOD

**mkrulic** · 04-04-2006, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by anheuser04

ok cool thats what i needed to know. What kind of gains should i expect using it EOD

depends on how much you train, diet, sleep, etc. also on where you are in terms of natural limits. are you traing for strenght or wat

**anheuser04** · 04-04-2006, 09:49 PM

I just want to get bigger and gain more strength. My stats as of right now are 5'10, 140 lbs so you can see why i want to gain. Plus i have a job where i am lifting all day so i want to increase my strength

**mkrulic** · 04-04-2006, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by anheuser04

I just want to get bigger and gain more strength. My stats as of right now are 5'10, 140 lbs so you can see why i want to gain. Plus i have a job where i am lifting all day so i want to increase my strength

Work hard, eat right, sleep consistantly and you'll be happy w/ the results. It's hard to say exact gains cause I've never run this cycle. the first cycle I ran was 7 weeks of test at 250mg/week and I got great results.

**anheuser04** · 04-04-2006, 09:55 PM

one more question. What week does sust usually kick in?

**mkrulic** · 04-04-2006, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by anheuser04

one more question. What week does sust usually kick in?

depends on the user. for me one and one half to two weeks.

**anheuser04** · 04-04-2006, 10:01 PM

thanks for all your help bro

**Weakass** · 04-04-2006, 10:08 PM

Personaly I think 250 EOD is a little much for a first cycle. I hope you have Nolva on hand for sides since you don't know how your going to react to test.Really your diet and exercise routine is what is going to make or break your cycle. My first cycle I did 200mg a week of Test Cyp. and my diet wasn't too good, and I saw pretty good gains. Now I'm in week 4 of a 500mg/wk Sust.250 cycle. I felt it kick in in week 3.

**stunt954** · 04-04-2006, 10:29 PM

WEAKASS ....? how often did you inject?

**Weakass** · 04-04-2006, 10:56 PM

cyp once a week.sust twice a week.

**anheuser04** · 04-04-2006, 10:57 PM

where can i get nolva?

**Serbian_Stallion** · 04-04-2006, 11:35 PM

Howdo you tell sustnanon has kicked in?

is it that drastic?

**anheuser04** · 04-05-2006, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by Serbian_Stallion

Howdo you tell sustnanon has kicked in?

is it that drastic?

That was my next question

**soccer#3** · 04-05-2006, 12:26 AM

Originally Posted by anheuser04

where can i get nolva?

http://www.anabolicreview-research.c...products_id=43

i wouldnt have started the cycle until i had everything on hand, i hope u have a proper pct planned

**fhorst** · 04-05-2006, 12:32 AM

Letro is better. (as an anti e)
Anyway, EOD is good, 2x week is not so good for the short acting esters, but does not make a difference for the long ones.
ith 2xweek you have more sides.

**juiceboxxx** · 04-05-2006, 04:19 AM

Run the sustanon eod = 750mgs a week this will keep the blood living consistant.

How old are you? this is your 1st cycle right?

Sustanon usually doesnt kick in till 4-6 weeks so dont get all paranoid if you dont become superman after 3 weeks.

How much you gain entirly depends on your training and especially DIET.
I would post your diet in the diet forum. (I bet it needs work)

If your goal is to increase your strength and want to bulk: then I would also post up your training gym routine in the training forum.
Lift heavy aim for less reps.

You began a cycle and you didnt have nolva on hand? bro you should have done much more research.
what are you using for pct? or do you what pct is? Get Clomid and nolva.

DO MORE RESEARCH

you can get nolva the same place as you got your sustanon (your supplier)

**juiceboxxx** · 04-05-2006, 04:23 AM

Begin pct after 2 weeks of last injection:

PCT

CLOMID

day 1 -10 100/mg Ed (every day)
day 10-21 50/mg Ed

Nolvadex

1st day............................................... .....= 60 mg
2-7 days.............................................. ....= 40 mg
day 8-28 days...........................................= 20 mg

**anheuser04** · 04-05-2006, 07:59 PM

thanx for all the info juiceboxx. I am 25 and yes this is my first cycle. I thought i did enough research before i started but i guess you can never do enough.