Phera Plex or Test (Newbie Cycle)?

[bedavis]

Hey guys, I've been reading the forum for a while now and finally decided to make a user name and start talking to you all. You guys have been a great source for learning about steroids and how to use them relativly safely. I've been lifting for 3-4 years naturally now (I'm 5'7 160 lbs) and am seriously considering doing my first cycle. I am most concerned about my health while on the cycle. I already bought Phera Plex since it was easy to obtain and really cheap, but I'm deff concerned about it messing up my liver. Would it be better for my health to take something like testosterone enanthate at @ 500mg/week for 10 weeks or take 20mg Phera Plex/day for 4 weeks?

With the Phera Plex I would use the following:

20mg/day Phera Plex for 4 weeks
AX Perfect Cycle Liver Protectant
Fish Oil

PCT - Nolva 20mg/ Liver Protectant 4 weeks

With the Test I would use:

500mg/week 10 weeks
Liver Protectant - All days
Nolva 10mg/day weeks 1-12

PCT:

Week 13 - Nolva 40mg/day, Clomid 100mg/day
Week 14 - Nolva 30mg/day, Clomid 50mg/day
Week 15 - Nolva 20mg/day, Clomid 50mg/day

I just want to know what the safest cycle would be I geuss, and which would be most effective. I know the Phera Plex is obviously cheaper but I'm not sure if that would mess my body up too much or not since its a methylated oral. Thanks for your help guys.

[topvega]

U neglected to include your age in your stats... I don't know what phera plex is.. never heard of it... is it like superdrol?

[Hellmaskbanned]

U neglected to include your age in your stats... I don't know what phera plex is.. never heard of it... is it like superdrol?

I think it's some prohormone thats supposively comparable to tbol.

[bedavis]

Sorry about that, I'm 20 years old. Phera Plex is like superdrol just suposedly less sides. The thing that worries me is that it seems like those companies that put legal roids out just do what ever they could to get past the fda (obviously an OTC steroid would sell fast) and dont really think about the effects that their product may have on the body of their customer.

[mg316]

If you do use phera-plex you will need clomid and nolva for your pct

[mg316]

check out the supplements forum, you won't get many replies, this is the steroid forum.

[bedavis]

Ok I'll add clomid if I decide to take the Phera PLex. Phera Plex is a steroid btw (17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol).

[bedavis]

Yeah I know this is the steroid forum, I was just considering taking Test instead, and I geuss just wanted to see what you guys thought of doing a Test cycle instead for my first one. Do you think it would be more effective? People have put on 10-15 lbs using phera plex for 4 weeks.

[mg316]

Ok I'll add clomid if I decide to take the Phera PLex. Phera Plex is a steroid btw (17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol).

I know it is but people don't really ask questions about phera-plex in this forum, thats why I said to check the supplements forum.

[bedavis]

Oh ok, will do. Thanks.

[topvega]

Yeah I know this is the steroid forum, I was just considering taking Test instead, and I geuss just wanted to see what you guys thought of doing a Test cycle instead for my first one. Do you think it would be more effective? People have put on 10-15 lbs using phera plex for 4 weeks.

15lbs in 4 weeks?? I doubt much of that is muscle... probably causes water retention... test e or c wld be a better bet... orals=liver stress... injectables even though it might not seem like it... are safer then orals... when done correctly....

[FiveNine]

......Phera Plex and Superdrol both give very dry gains, very little water retention if any at all.....but 15 pounds of muscle is a lot to expect, i would think gains like 8-10 pounds is a better estimate
.......i do agree that injectables are safer to the body once injected, since orals are stressful to the liver.......
.....to your question, its all up to what youre looking to achieve, you didnt really specify what you hope to achieve....but both are effective ways to gain muscle.....

[hub]

at your age i would wait. i started at 19 and wish i would of waited a few years because i wasent at my natural limits yet. im 28 now and i have wasted tons of money on LEGAL stuff ,creatine, androstesiol, nor 19, bla bla bla. i think when i was in high school it was boron. woo hoo how many people got huge on boron. i have no input on phera plex but its probably the same as the others, you might get the side effects but not what your really looking for. if your absolutely set on doing a cycle i would go for the real thing, that is if you really have a good source and know what your getting is legit. i got some test not too long ago from a friend who got it from a guy at the gym. well after only doing test before for a few years i think it is homemade tren. just sayin be carefull some of these people will do anything for a dollar with no regaurds to your health at all.

[Testostack]

Sorry about that, I'm 20 years old. Phera Plex is like superdrol just suposedly less sides. The thing that worries me is that it seems like those companies that put legal roids out just do what ever they could to get past the fda (obviously an OTC steroid would sell fast) and dont really think about the effects that their product may have on the body of their customer.

It's true that SD is kinda harsh on sides and i'd go for PP if i had choice, but test ain't the same at all bro, start with PP and after a few while, when you get used to those suppl. go for test e @500mg EW for 12 weeks. that should do the trick.......JMO