maximum liver value capability

**russia dog** · 04-05-2006, 08:33 AM

running 500test 13
400 deca 12
is it safe to run orals for 10 weeks at 70mg winny

**russia dog** · 04-05-2006, 08:51 AM

bump

**magic32** · 04-05-2006, 09:09 AM

Yes, the dosage and duration are quite safe, if all other variables are within range at the inception of your cycle.

M.

**Pinnacle** · 04-05-2006, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by russia dog

running 500test 13
400 deca 12
is it safe to run orals for 10 weeks at 70mg winny

I've ran anadrol at 200 mgs ED for 10 weeks several times.Never an issue with my liver.If you believe all the shit on these boards and listen to the thread parrots you'll never get big bro.So with that said..70 mgs ED of winny will be fine.As long as you have a healthy liver to start with

Good luck with the cycle

~Pinnacle~

**russia dog** · 04-05-2006, 09:11 AM

ok because you are a VET i believe u haha

**russia dog** · 04-05-2006, 09:13 AM

just be surei don';t die

**Pinnacle** · 04-05-2006, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by russia dog

ok because you are a VET i believe u haha

No bro ..I'm just a crazy motherfvker...thats all.

I believe very little of what I read on this board.Way too many wannabees and bullshitters.

But what I posted as far as my experience is true from real life experience.

~Pinnacle~

**Hellmaskbanned** · 04-05-2006, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

I've ran anadrol at 200 mgs ED for 10 weeks several times.Never an issue with my liver.If you believe all the shit on these boards and listen to the thread parrots you'll never get big bro.So with that said..70 mgs ED of winny will be fine.As long as you have a healthy liver to start with

Good luck with the cycle

~Pinnacle~

I'm bettin you didn't take any liver supps during that "little" run did ya?

**Pinnacle** · 04-05-2006, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

I'm bettin you didn't take any liver supps during that "little" run did ya?

Fvk No man.I NEVER run milk thistle or anything similar..EVER...EVER...Nor do I run anti estrogens either.

~Pinnacle~

**russia dog** · 04-05-2006, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

No bro ..I'm just a crazy motherfvker...thats all.

I believe very little of what I read on this board.Way too many wannabees and bullshitters.

But what I posted as far as my experience is true from real life experience.

~Pinnacle~

i agree,,,,,,,, too many wannabes andbullshitter trying to be a smartass...
but ironically they have great influence (phychologically) on my decision-making so far.... some time i do believe them

**Hellmaskbanned** · 04-05-2006, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

Fvk No man.I NEVER run milk thistle or anything similar..EVER...EVER...Nor do I run anti estrogens either.

~Pinnacle~

YOU da MANimal!

**russia dog** · 04-05-2006, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

Fvk No man.I NEVER run milk thistle or anything similar..EVER...EVER...Nor do I run anti estrogens either.

~Pinnacle~

ok the anti estrogen part is freaky, u dunt do pct?

**Pinnacle** · 04-05-2006, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by russia dog

ok the anti estrogen part is freaky, u dunt do pct?

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No..I never come off cycle(technically).I cruise at 200 mgs Test weekly in between cycles.Been doing this for years.So that should answer your question as towhy no anti estrogens

~Pinnacle~

**russia dog** · 04-05-2006, 09:36 AM

how big are you crazy man pic? stats?

**russia dog** · 04-05-2006, 09:42 AM

i have a question for you pinnacle regarding your experience andknowledge...

is it true that if u run a higher dosage of a substances, say testostertone

u then, if u run a next cycle, won't benefit as much from lower dosage in the next cycle?

something about your receptor being damaged.....
ok to keep things simplier
say all things constants (diet and everything)
if i run 500 test first cycle gain 5lbs
2nd cycle i increase to 750
3rd cycle i do 500 test again, according to wad i heard i won;'t benefit as much in the 3rd cycle because of the upping dosage in the 2nd cycle

my body is more torlerance to the substance of something that 500 is so fuking small

**Pinnacle** · 04-06-2006, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by russia dog

i have a question for you pinnacle regarding your experience andknowledge...

is it true that if u run a higher dosage of a substances, say testostertone

u then, if u run a next cycle, won't benefit as much from lower dosage in the next cycle?

something about your receptor being damaged.....
ok to keep things simplier
say all things constants (diet and everything)
if i run 500 test first cycle gain 5lbs
2nd cycle i increase to 750
3rd cycle i do 500 test again, according to wad i heard i won;'t benefit as much in the 3rd cycle because of the upping dosage in the 2nd cycle

my body is more torlerance to the substance of something that 500 is so fuking small

Sorry for the late response bro.I'm really busy these days.

Your answer is yes.Nothing to do with receptors,more so you build a tolerance to anabolics just like you would many other drug.
However,if you wait really long time periods between cycles.You can run a high dose proceeded by a lower dose next cycle.But yoiu have to wait at least 6 mos for it to work out on your behalf.

~Pinnacle~

**Liftnainez** · 04-06-2006, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

I've ran anadrol at 200 mgs ED for 10 weeks several times.Never an issue with my liver.If you believe all the shit on these boards and listen to the thread parrots you'll never get big bro.So with that said..70 mgs ED of winny will be fine.As long as you have a healthy liver to start with

Good luck with the cycle

~Pinnacle~

Pinnacle your responses are awsome bro.. always telling it how it is..

**Pinnacle** · 04-06-2006, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by Liftnainez

Pinnacle your responses are awsome bro.. always telling it how it is..

Thanks..I'm not about being politically correct.I give real life experineces and if you want to get big I can tell you how.I've been around the block more than I care to admit,so I have no reason to bullshit anyone.

~Pinnacle~

**russia dog** · 04-09-2006, 07:38 AM

thank you so much pinnacle, i shall grow

**themouse** · 04-09-2006, 11:31 AM

pinnacle what's your opinion on an oral cycle of dianabol and stanozolol at 5mgs each

**Liftnainez** · 04-09-2006, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

Thanks..I'm not about being politically correct.I give real life experineces and if you want to get big I can tell you how.I've been around the block more than I care to admit,so I have no reason to bullshit anyone.

~Pinnacle~

I feel ya bro.. props brotha..

**powerliftmike** · 04-09-2006, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

Fvk No man.I NEVER run milk thistle or anything similar..EVER...EVER...Nor do I run anti estrogens either.

~Pinnacle~

Milk thistle's effectiveness is overrated.

**powerliftmike** · 04-09-2006, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by themouse

pinnacle what's your opinion on an oral cycle of dianabol and stanozolol at 5mgs each

What? That isnt a cycle. 5mg of dbol a day?, come on. If you are just trying to avoid side effects and liver stress go with test only.

**powerliftmike** · 04-09-2006, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

Sorry for the late response bro.I'm really busy these days.

Your answer is yes.Nothing to do with receptors,more so you build a tolerance to anabolics just like you would many other drug.
However,if you wait really long time periods between cycles.You can run a high dose proceeded by a lower dose next cycle.But yoiu have to wait at least 6 mos for it to work out on your behalf.

~Pinnacle~

Agreed. Definently nothing to do with receptors since taking androgens increases their number and "receptiveness".