good cutting cycle?

[Elias]

what do you guys think as this for a cutting cycle?
i am gonna be doing it for 8 weeks with proviron ED.
first 2 weeks test Cyp 500+winstrol
then the last 6weeks test Cyp + anavar

any opinions? (what about hair loss also will it be too affected?)
its gonna be my first cycle ever and i am a bit worried, i am gonna keep nolva on hand in case of any gyno signs, but what about pct? when should i start it coz winstrol and anavar i think have a diff life span than Test? and should i take anything else with it? any help is apreciated.
thx

oh and i have been training for 5 years i am 23 years old, 6'2 with 97kgs and 14%bf i want to get down to 10 maybe 9 if i can folowing this cycle. any help is appreciated

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winni or anavar drop it
just use test at 500mg for ur 1stl cycle for 10-12 wk then PCT

[Elias]

why droping the anavar and winni?
thx for replying

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why droping the anavar and winni?
thx for replying

coz its ur 1st cycle ever so u should use just test

do some more research

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start here:
Cycles for the Newbie

[Kappa Capo]

Malaka don't stack on your first cycle.

And to front 2weeks with winstrol is not good because it dont kick fast.
Read some more and you will see some good idea's.

[GetBiggg]

Prop / Tren


no sorry.. dunno why I said that...
stick with Cyp 500mg EW weeks 1-10 and good luck!

[Elias]

i have read a lot of stuff cause i ve been surfing on this site for like 3months or so and its not till today that i have joined and about the link u gave me:
Cycle 11:
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
7 – 12 Winny 50mg ED
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED

and its a newbie cycle:S

[GetBiggg]

well looks good to me if you do decide to add compounds.

make sure to get your pct in order as well...

bump the novla to 20mg ED and get some clomid to run 100mg ed or 50mg ed...
there are some good schools of thought in the PCT forum,
but you should start your PCT two weeks after last Test E injection, so at week 12, the day after your last winny pill.

good luck.

[Elias]

thx guys for the replies.
GetBiggg i was just showing 2minutes that even in the beginner's cycle we have diff compounds.
anyways so you suggest enan is better than cypionate for cutting?
and winstrol is better than anavar ? i have winstrol pills and injections on hand but i will stick with the injectables i think it will be better. so we dump the var? i am intrested in only getting shreded, no muscles as i am already very big.

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[QUOTE=Elias]thx guys for the replies.
GetBiggg i was just showing 2minutes that even in the beginner's cycle we have diff compounds.
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that is not a core thing , it is a wise thing

[GetBiggg]

Enan and Cyp are very similiar compounds, i've used Enan before and while I liked it Idid have a lot of water retention.
If you don't mind ED or EOD injections i'd say go with Prop... that's what i'm on now and I love it.. will never use another Test again. No water retention - strength is up - look better its great.

WInny vs Anavar , I can't really recommend that much as i've only used winny before. I'm about to start up on 5 weeks of it myself on wednesday to finish out my cycle. I like it and coupled with the lack of water retention from the prop / ten i'm hoping for some good results.

I think my next cycle I will try var but as of now can't really recommend it to you, but I do like winny for what its worth.

both will work for what you have in mind.

also diet can really turn anything into a cutting / bulking cycle so check out the diet form as well.

i'd say go with Prop / Winny... but that's just me.

[Elias]

mmm so propionate should be shot lets say monday wednesday friday and sunday? and so on.... and what doses do u suggest? for 8 weeks stacked with winstrol or anavar .i was reading about var and winny and checking the effectiveness chart var and winny are very similar.
about proviron can i use it ed? along with nolva and clomid throughout the cyle?

[GetBiggg]

Prop ED for more stable blood levels, can be shot EOD. (This cycle i'm shooting EOD with great results - next time will go ED i think though)

i'm shooting 100mg EOD, which isn't a huge dosage. you could do 50-75mg ED, or 100 / 150mg EOD.

if you run winny run it 50mg ED for 5 weeks, having it end two days after your last prop injection so you can start PCT 3 days after your last prop injection 1 day after your last winny pill / inject.

never used provirion but yes it can be used ED, I think 50mg is stardard dose.. anyone else here?
novla can be used throughout the cycle maybe at 10mg ED, at pct you should bump it up to 20mg ED until you feel like your sex drive / hard ons are back. use clomid for pct only not during the cycle. 100mg ED would be what I suggest.

hope some of this helps... just my personal experiences.

edit - i'd also run the prop for 10 weeks at least.

[BajanBastard]

i have read a lot of stuff cause i ve been surfing on this site for like 3months or so and its not till today that i have joined and about the link u gave me:
Cycle 11:
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
7 – 12 Winny 50mg ED
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED

and its a newbie cycle:S

I like the cycle. I for one disagree with the constant parroting that your 1st cycle MUST be test only, just save the nolva for PCT @ 20mg ED.

[Hellmaskbanned]

Test 1-10 weeks 500mgs
Anavar 5-start of pct or 1-pct if you can afford it. 60mgs