Why run Test E 1 week longer than Deca?...

[Ih8urdsm]

The cycle im running im running Test E 1 week longer than Deca, from what i've read thats the best way to get pct to line up ( I hope Swifto and C_Bino will chime in ), which is cool, but im not sure exactly why. And i know when i see a lot of other peoples preliminary cycles, they have test 2 weeks past deca for whatever reason, and then may adjust it...
From what ive read on steroid .com, they both have 15 day active lives (is that the same as halflife), but its best to run test 1 week longer because the deca is so suppressive? And longer than 1 week would be too long to start the pct for deca?
Just trying to get this all straight in my head

Thanks

[BajanBastard]

Tren and deca metabolites are still suppressive so running the test at least 2 weeks longer than the deca will ensure you don't suffer from any adverse sides from the deca.

[Ih8urdsm]

I was in told in my last thread by Swifto to run the Test only 1 week longer so that PCT would line up correctly...?

[Jay_notellin]

the life of Deca is 21 days, Test E is 14 days.........running Test E for a week longer will ensure your PCT's start date aligns. I do not believe running the test longer has any other benefit.

[BajanBastard]

It's not all about PCT when it comes to the nandrolone family especially trenbolone, even if the hormones had the same ester it would be best to run the test at least 2 weeks past the test.

[Ih8urdsm]

bump

[IBdmfkr]

ditto, swifto mentioned the one week split because of the half-lives but I agree with BigK as to rolling the test two weeks past to be safe and to help hold gains... Deca and Tren especially tend to really shut you down hard and you need that extra week to recover in some cases, better safe than sorry. Either way will work fine, you'll have to try it both ways to tell the difference.

[Swifto]

I think its all been said.

As above the Test is occasionally run 1 week longer to match PCT start times up correctly. I also agree with what Big K said about runnning it 2-3 weeks longer when using any of the nandrolone familly.

Ideally, it would be wise to end with a short estered Test, like Test Prop, or some tabs. Like end the last 4 weeks with Test Prop, then drop off the longer acting esters and PCT begins 3 days after the Test Prop. Then the body has to wait less time between ending the AS run, to PCT begins. This can also be done with Anavar, Winstrol, Test Prop, Test Susp, Tbol and some use Dbol. I'm doing it with Test Prop 75mg/ED for the final 4 weeks, then leading to PCT.

[Ih8urdsm]

I think its all been said.

As above the Test is occasionally run 1 week longer to match PCT start times up correctly. I also agree with what Big K said about runnning it 2-3 weeks longer when using any of the nandrolone familly.

Ideally, it would be wise to end with a short estered Test, like Test Prop, or some tabs. Like end the last 4 weeks with Test Prop, then drop off the longer acting esters and PCT begins 3 days after the Test Prop. Then the body has to wait less time between ending the AS run, to PCT begins. This can also be done with Anavar, Winstrol, Test Prop, Test Susp, Tbol and some use Dbol. I'm doing it with Test Prop 75mg/ED for the final 4 weeks, then leading to PCT.

Well the Cycle i have just started is (1 week in)
Dbol 50mg ED week 1-4
Test E 750mg week 1-14
Deca 600mg week 1-13
running letro .5mg ed throughout have nolva on hand
nolva&clomid for pct
b6 150mg ed
milk thistle 1000mg ed
r-ala 300mg ed

I do have 5 bottles of Prop and 2 bottles of oral Winny on hand which was for my next cycle, but i can toss something in at the end if you think it will benefit me. I'd love to hear what you think guys.

Thanks!

[IBdmfkr]

Well the Cycle i have just started is (1 week in)
Dbol 50mg ED week 1-4
Test E 750mg week 1-12 *
Deca 600mg week 1-13
Prop 13-16 100mg/day *
Winny 10-16 50-100mg/day *
running letro .5mg ed throughout have nolva on hand
nolva&clomid for pct
b6 150mg ed
milk thistle 1000mg ed
r-ala 300mg ed

I do have 5 bottles of Prop and 2 bottles of oral Winny on hand which was for my next cycle, but i can toss something in at the end if you think it will benefit me. I'd love to hear what you think guys.

Thanks!

Looks good, here how I'd add the following compounds.

[Ih8urdsm]

Thanks i think im going to look into giving this a try.

Anyone else have any input?

Thanks for your help bro's!!

[IBdmfkr]

bump for more opinions for Ih8...

[Ih8urdsm]

Looks good, here how I'd add the following compounds.

thanks for the bump

So I would start pct after week 16?

So drop the prop and winny after week 16...start nolva 10 (or 20?)mg Ed, and Clomid therapy, 3 days after last prop shot??

I've also heard to start the nolva 3 days before stopping letro, which i would assume i run till the last prop shot? is that right?

Thanks Ibdmfkr and crew!

[IBdmfkr]

thanks for the bump

So I would start pct after week 16? Yes, start PCT 2-3days after last Prop/Winny shot.

So drop the prop and winny after week 16...start nolva 10 (or 20?)mg Ed, and Clomid therapy, 3 days after last prop shot?? I'd run PCT as follows following last Prop/Winny shot.
Clomid wks1-3 100mg/day wks4-6 50mg/day
Nolva wks1-6 20mg/day
If available, Proviron wks1-6 50-100mg/day (recently added this to my PCT, great stuff!)
Possibly run HCG either throughout cycle or near the end to help with recovery.
Remember to have Bloodwork done a couple weeks after PCT is compete to see where you stand.

I've also heard to start the nolva 3 days before stopping letro, which i would assume i run till the last prop shot? is that right? However you choose, I'd overlap by a few days incase of estrogen rebound from letro, I have always overlapped with good results).
Thanks Ibdmfkr and crew!

These comments are all according to the cycle I proposed FYI.