Time on = Time off.....well not all the time :)

[Jay_notellin]

OK guys, Here is my situation. I am 75 days post cycle and the cyp in my closet is calling me.....It wants in my a$$. I know that conventional wisdom tells us that time on should be equaled by time off (recently completed a 12 week sus cycle). However, I cannot make it down the my hallway without pulling the cyp out of my closet and fondeling it.....stoking it....wanting it! .

Now I am sure not ALL OF YOU have obided by the time on = time off rule. I want to hear your thoughts. One thing i am yet to hear on this board is the issue of "clogged receptors". In a nutshell, the reason you do not grow beyond a certain point when in a cycle is because your receptors are clogged. THis was a big issue back in the day, as it was the primary reason why I took time off equal to time on. Restoring natural test function was not a primary concern back then. Take into account I am going back atleast 7 years.

So, I would like to hear anyones thoughts on time on = time off and any possible correlation to clogged receptor sites.

Please note my natural test was back to normal relatively soon after my cycle.....as a matter of fact, my balls are a bit larger now.....nice large marble balls

[Ih8urdsm]

I dont think it matters how long you are off, if you go to the doctor and get your bloodwork checked out. Why ask any other questions?

[XReps]

.....It wants in my a$$. .....................and fondeling it.....stoking it....wanting it!

[Jay_notellin]

I dont think it matters how long you are off, if you go to the doctor and get your bloodwork checked out. Why ask any other questions?

I did ask my doctor about clogged receptors. He could not give an answer on it. He just did not know.....

[Jay_notellin]

Bumpedy bump

[tvd220]

get your test levels checked, see if they are back up

[Jay_notellin]

I think steroids must affect the ability to read an comprehend, because people are not getting my question.

I am not concerned about my test levels......I know they are fine....end of story......I am concerned about clogged receptors...

[Logan13]

I think steroids must affect the ability to read an comprehend, because people are not getting my question.

I am not concerned about my test levels......I know they are fine....end of story......I am concerned about clogged receptors...

clogged receptors, never heard of that. Get some stridex...........
anyway, I have been on 6 month cycles in the past and I basically grew as well in the end as in the beginning, I would not worry about receptors.

[Jay_notellin]

clogged receptors, never heard of that. Get some stridex...........
anyway, I have been on 6 month cycles in the past and I basically grew as well in the end as in the beginning, I would not worry about receptors.

I think some OG's will know exactly what I am talking about......Funny, I have heard nothing about it on this board. Perhpas you are right and it is an old "urban legend".

Any old school guys wanna chime in?

[Kappa Capo]

Ive heard it but never seen a study or medicalsource that confirms it.

[Lucifer1]

not trying to steal your thread but what should test levels be at for 21 yr old?

[IBdmfkr]

Normal range is 250-900ng/dL.

Back to the question. This has been discussed numerous times on this board, do a search on receptor saturation. Here's one particular thread that stuck out to me recently on this subject.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...or+degradation

[fitnessNY]

Have complete bloodwork done. If it comes back ok, i would wait until you took 9-10 weeks off for a 12 week cycle. When my bloodwork came back ok for a 16 week cycle I took 12 weeks off. Blood work came back ok 4 weeks post cycle.

[taiboxa]

Normal range is 250-900ng/dL.

Back to the question. This has been discussed numerous times on this board, do a search on receptor saturation. Here's one particular thread that stuck out to me recently on this subject.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...or+degradation

that is a brilliant thread almost stickyable iMo

[Jay_notellin]

I am over 10 weeks off.

I didnt get a lot from those links......Did not provide a difinitive answer. I do admit I lack the vocab to understand every post.

In yoeman's terms, I think if a different chemical is used.....a 10 week period (providing natural test production is back to normal) would suffice between cycles. My last cycle was Sus. This cycle will be Cyp with superdrol weeks 1-4. I think I will grow and will start a daily diary of my results.

[fitnessNY]

I am over 10 weeks off.

I didnt get a lot from those links......Did not provide a difinitive answer. I do admit I lack the vocab to understand every post.

In yoeman's terms, I think if a different chemical is used.....a 10 week period (providing natural test production is back to normal) would suffice between cycles. My last cycle was Sus. This cycle will be Cyp with superdrol weeks 1-4. I think I will grow and will start a daily diary of my results.

10 weeks off for a 12 week cycle, you are probably fine, but you will never know unless you have bloodwork done. Even if you take 12 weeks off, you should still get bloodwork done.

What Gym do you go to in the city? I go to NYSC.

[tvd220]

I think steroids must affect the ability to read an comprehend, because people are not getting my question.

I am not concerned about my test levels......I know they are fine....end of story......I am concerned about clogged receptors...

Actually Im off cycle, but that may be why....
Sorry,I did not answer the question you were asking.

As in reguards to the receptors, you should be fine, but switching from sust to test E will probably hit the same reseptors becasue it is the same substance, with different esters.
It is still a good idea to get complete bloodwork, including liver values and test levels as a precaution. Sex drive and balls coming back dont always mean natty test is on point.
I stopped a low dose 11 week cycle of Test E on Jan 28th, and Im gonna go back on in May. I have the same problem, I got my test and deca bottles in my room bro, waiting for me....

But think, if you start later, you can end later, which means you can cycle all through the summer, which is great. You dont wanna be dealing with another pct in the middle of the summer
good luck bro

[Jay_notellin]

Actually Im off cycle, but that may be why....
Sorry,I did not answer the question you were asking.

As in reguards to the receptors, you should be fine, but switching from sust to test E will probably hit the same reseptors becasue it is the same substance, with different esters.
It is still a good idea to get complete bloodwork, including liver values and test levels as a precaution. Sex drive and balls coming back dont always mean natty test is on point.
I stopped a low dose 11 week cycle of Test E on Jan 28th, and Im gonna go back on in May. I have the same problem, I got my test and deca bottles in my room bro, waiting for me....

But think, if you start later, you can end later, which means you can cycle all through the summer, which is great. You dont wanna be dealing with another pct in the middle of the summer

good luck bro

No worries.....I know u are trying to help....and it was sound advice.

I am actually not in NYC right now.....further south a bit....will be back in summer.

I cant wait to cycle through the summer.....going to be awesome!!! Women at the beach will want me....children will stare at me.....men will want to be me!!.......now if i can just do something about my ugly mug I will be set!

[musclestack]

clogged receptors, never heard of that. Get some stridex...........
anyway, I have been on 6 month cycles in the past and I basically grew as well in the end as in the beginning, I would not worry about receptors.

Logan, what were your gains like (per week/month) if you were gaining so well throughout the whole 6 months? I feel that most peoples' gains start to slowly decrease after week 9 or 10.

[musclestack]

I'll bump for you AND myself, Jay.

[Logan13]

Logan, what were your gains like (per week/month) if you were gaining so well throughout the whole 6 months? I feel that most peoples' gains start to slowly decrease after week 9 or 10.

gains on such a long cycle where not straight up the whole time, hell I'd be huge. Gains peaked at months 1-2 and then again months 4-5, leveled off in between. It was a low test prop cycle with anavar tossed in at the beginning and end. I think that alot of it has to do with staying on target, that's a long time to eat/train/and sleep right. Before I ever cycled, I was around 168lbs, 5'6" 29YO less than 10%BF. Today, 5'6"/195lbs off season/185lbs on/34YO. 10%-11% BF off season, 7-8% summer. I wrestled 126lbs in college........

[Logan13]

I think some OG's will know exactly what I am talking about......Funny, I have heard nothing about it on this board. Perhpas you are right and it is an old "urban legend".

Any old school guys wanna chime in?

OG? that is new to me as well. Look at my profile, I am no spring chicken.

[tvd220]

No worries.....I know u are trying to help....and it was sound advice.

I am actually not in NYC right now.....further south a bit....will be back in summer.

I cant wait to cycle through the summer.....going to be awesome!!! Women at the beach will want me....children will stare at me.....men will want to be me!!.......now if i can just do something about my ugly mug I will be set!

Hell yea, cant wait to my late May- August cycle!!! Hopefully bacne free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Accutane, dont fail me!