Rage???

[jcstanto]

Has anyone ever experienced rage from gear? What are the symptoms?

[ShnouzedUp]

nothing i can't control.... just easily aggitated sometimes.

[*Narkissos*]

Moving this thread to the steroid forum

Has anyone ever experienced rage from gear?

I haven't

What are the symptoms?

I'd assume that the symptoms of 'rage' would be anger

'Roid Rage '.. i.e. uncontrollable anger due to steroid use , is a fallacy. It simply does not exist. True some compounds increase aggession... but the control, or lack thereof, is a character trait... i.e. Depends on the individual's natural disposition and sense of responsibility.

~Narkissos

[anaBROLIC]

i agree that roid rage is mostly false. what happends is someone gets pissed off at something that would piss off anyone and think that because they are big and strong from juice that they are unstopable and tougher.. then call it roid rage.
i myself can be off gear for 5 months and get cut off by some a-hole on the highway and want to smash them. now i wouldnt call it roid rage if i was "on" gear.

[jcstanto]

I thought that was the case.

From what you guys have experienced, what makes you more irritable?

[anaBROLIC]

From what you guys have experienced, what makes you more irritable?

clomid

[jcstanto]

clomid

Thanks for helping me out bro.

Does (clomid) estrogen blocker help max out the effects of gear?

[*Narkissos*]

Does (clomid) estrogen blocker help max out the effects of gear?

huh?

re-state/Explain your question

[jcstanto]

huh?

re-state/Explain your question

Clomids an estrogen blocker right? Boosting testostorone levels? (Im still a noob. Lol)

[bukwheat]

rage is motivation

[Warrior]

WHen total hormone levels rise - you can seem a little more impulsive or aggressive... which pays dividends in the gym - but can kill your social abilities if you have little self control. Practice thinking before you act and being mature and you won't have as many issues with it. And if you were a dick before - tendencies have it that you will be more of a dick with more hormones rushing your veins...

You can experiece more aggression when many hormones are allowed to elevate. If you take testosterone - estrogen rises as well (and estrogen has been shown to cause aggression)... if you take a 19-Nor like Deca , progesterone will raise as well. So a testosterone and Deca cycle will lead to increases in plasma testosterone, estrogen, progesterone and the foreign compound: nandrolone ... as well as a mixture of other metabolites of all of these, like DHT...

So it isn't really which one will cause the most aggression - more than it is which combination would...

Estrogen blockers should be ran in doses above 500mg per week... to help keep it at bay for various reasons. But the goal is not to block it all the way because it still serves some benefits while on supraphysiological levels of blood androgens. BTW - Clomid should be ran in short bursts - not during a cycle. Arimidex or Nolvadex are two better options to combat estrogen while on...

[*Narkissos*]

Clomids an estrogen blocker right? Boosting testostorone levels? (Im still a noob. Lol)

On cycle? No.

Off cycle... (i.e. during the recovery from cycle: a.k.a. 'PCT')

yes

[DIESELPWR]

most people would apply the aggression to their workouts but i myself have never experienced any "rage"

[goosed]

i know this one bitch who makes me have rage on or off anything......... i think she would make me have rage if i was on morphine!!!!!!!

she dont piss me off any more on gear than off!!

[jcstanto]

I still need to work on what I need exactly, to better my work-outs. Like what cycles are more effective.

[Kappa Capo]

The only juice that got me heavymoodswings were Trenbolone .
But i did not hit people for that.

But the funny thing is that when i am on cycle i control my self better because i know that if i hit someone everybody thinks it roidrage.

[Tren Bull]

Moving this thread to the steroid forum



I haven't



I'd assume that the symptoms of 'rage' would be anger

'Roid Rage '.. i.e. uncontrollable anger due to steroid use , is a fallacy. It simply does not exist. True some compounds increase aggession... but the control, or lack thereof, is a character trait... i.e. Depends on the individual's natural disposition and sense of responsibility.

~Narkissos

yea i agree with this. however, there was one time that i felt uncontrolable rage while i was on test/tren , but i was going through some personal problems, plus i was sh_t faced drunk. not a good combo.

[Tren Bull]

The only juice that got me heavymoodswings were Trenbolone .
But i did not hit people for that.

But the funny thing is that when i am on cycle i control my self better because i know that if i hit someone everybody thinks it roidrage.

yea, i control myself when im on gear too. not cause i think that people are going to blame the gear, but because i know that if i were to get arrested for assault and battery, it would fu_k up my cycle.

[Tren Bull]

On cycle? No.

Off cycle... (i.e. during the recovery from cycle: a.k.a. 'PCT')

yes

clomid is pretty bad for you. ive even heard rumors that it causes brain tumors. imo it would be better to go with a high dose of nolva for pct. supposedly, arimidex will kickstart your bodies own natural test production too.

[Warrior]

yea i agree with this. however, there was one time that i felt uncontrolable rage while i was on test/tren, but i was going through some personal problems, plus i was sh_t faced drunk. not a good combo.

Test/Tren is infamous for raising aggression and irritability... but again you are combining large amounts of testosterone with large amounts of a highly androgenic progestin - raising total blood hormones dramatically.

I had a buddy who couldn't keep the test/tren combo in his house - his wife would immediatly throw it out - she wouldn't let him do the two together... actually, she wouldn't let him do trenbolone with anything

[jcstanto]

Dam*, I wish I had sources. lol

[Tren Bull]

Test/Tren is infamous for raising aggression and irritability... but again you are combining large amounts of testosterone with large amounts of a highly androgenic progestin - raising total blood hormones dramatically.

I had a buddy who couldn't keep the test/tren combo in his house - his wife would immediatly throw it out - she wouldn't let him do the two together... actually, she wouldn't let him do trenbolone with anything

haha, smart woman... maybe a little too smart

[jcstanto]

Whats the best type of gear for gaining weight? (Besides D-bol) Any drawbacks?

[Warrior]

clomid is pretty bad for you. ive even heard rumors that it causes brain tumors. imo it would be better to go with a high dose of nolva for pct. supposedly, arimidex will kickstart your bodies own natural test production too.

Its the prolonged use that can be harmful... I prefer to run Clomid in short burst like it is safely prescribed in a clinical setting. To induce ovulation - docs give it in burst of a week or so. I think men trying to recover their HPTA would benefit from the same regime... and Avandia (possible Metfomin too) in conjunction with Clomid has shown to increase it's success rate. Basically, if it gets a woman to ovulate - the same path would help get the testes pumpin' out testosterone again... via release of FSH/LH and blocking estrogens inhibitory effects...

[Kappa Capo]

yea, i control myself when im on gear too. not cause i think that people are going to blame the gear, but because i know that if i were to get arrested for assault and battery, it would fu_k up my cycle.

Good one bro

[jcstanto]

Can you get clomid at the same site where you get chems Ba/Bb?

[jcstanto]

yea, i control myself when im on gear too. not cause i think that people are going to blame the gear, but because i know that if i were to get arrested for assault and battery, it would fu_k up my cycle.

Now thats some funny sh*t! lol

[Warrior]

Whats the best type of gear for gaining weight? (Besides D-bol) Any drawbacks?

The best all-around cycle? Testosterone enanthate ... 250mg every 3-4 days... this would raise blood androgen levels many times above endogenous levels... and test is best! It's what made you a man in your mother's womb and matured you through your teens into the man you are today. A little exogenous help as adults can help to lower fat and deffinitly packs on muscle with a good diet and training program...

[Tren Bull]

Its the prolonged use that can be harmful... I prefer to run Clomid in short burst like it is safely prescribed in a clinical setting. To induce ovulation - docs give it in burst of a week or so. I think men trying to recover their HPTA would benefit from the same regime... and Avandia (possible Metfomin too) in conjunction with Clomid has shown to increase it's success rate. Basically, if it gets a woman to ovulate - the same path would help get the testes pumpin' out testosterone again... via release of FSH/LH and blocking estrogens inhibitory effects...

yea, that sounds good. i might try that during my next pct.

[jcstanto]

Thats the same stuff as clomiphene right?

[Tren Bull]

Whats the best type of gear for gaining weight? (Besides D-bol) Any drawbacks?

well, imo you cant go wrong with test stacked with either deca , or equi. if you feel like going all out, you could try test/tren along with a heavy bulk diet. btw, adding turinibol would help you gain even more

[Tren Bull]

Thats the same stuff as clomiphene right?

yea, clomiphene citrate = clomid

[jcstanto]

So, doing a straight injection of clomid would be good too?

[Tren Bull]

So, doing a straight injection of clomid would be good too?

ive never seen injectable clomid before. dont inject it unless you know for a fact that its meant to be injected i.e. its totally sterile

[Warrior]

So, doing a straight injection of clomid would be good too?

Clomid will only benefit you if you were hypogonadal - like after a cycle is over. And, NO, you can not inject Clomid

[Jay_notellin]

Has anyone ever experienced rage from gear? What are the symptoms?

Yes......I have had roid rage . My GF told me she was going to throw out my gear, and I told her I would cut her hand off ......

To be honest, I think "rage" is bull$hit. If anything, I get a positive sense of being on. More confidence. I have never gotten into a fight or intense argument while on.......and i am an edgy person to begin with. Granted, I have only done a 3 or 4 cycles......but i think that is enough to give an opinion.

[jcstanto]

I seen a bottle with a needle. It said clomiphene on the site that has chems Ba/Bb. It just looked like an injectable. (Im a noob)

[jcstanto]

Yes......I have had roid rage . My GF told me she was going to throw out my gear, and I told her I would cut her hand off ......

To be honest, I think "rage" is bull$hit. If anything, I get a positive sense of being on. More confidence. I have never gotten into a fight or intense argument while on.......and i am an edgy person to begin with. Granted, I have only done a 3 or 4 cycles......but i think that is enough to give an opinion.

Thanks for the info.

[Tren Bull]

Yes......I have had roid rage . My GF told me she was going to throw out my gear, and I told her I would cut her hand off ......

jeez bro, thats not very nice

[jcstanto]

I know its off subject, but the people on this website/forum kick as*. I learn so much cool sh*t that goes on. You guys give new meaning to the word body-builder. Unlike those posers that come to the gym to kill time.