14lb in 3 weeks???????????

[helium3]

is this average?my first cycle with test e the weight shot up 5lbs after the first weekend now over the last week(week 3) ive put on roughly 10lbs i know alot of it is water fortunately my face bloated a bit in the first week and didnt get any worse.

[Warrior]

Did you frontload the TE?

[MrMent1on]

mostly water bro. bu twater in the muscle is good for growth.

[helium3]

Did you frontload the TE?

if doing this is f/l then yes there have been some arguements to the contrary.

500 fri leaving roughly 250 on monday+mondays shot equals 500 leaving 250 on thursday+thursday equals 500 and so on.

i felt the jump in labido the first week even though on average its fairly high,it was sat/sun when the first noticable amount of water went on,that corrisponded to an increase in strength.jesus i cant stop shaving.

[Warrior]

if doing this is f/l then yes there have been some arguements to the contrary.

500 fri leaving roughly 250 on monday+mondays shot equals 500 leaving 250 on thursday+thursday equals 500 and so on.

WTF does that mean? Frontloading, as in doing double the maintenance dose within the first week or before the first half life... to get blood levels up right away. If you frontloaded it then I can see where the gains within three weeks would be androgen-related... if you didn't frontload it, then you haven't even peaked yet (TE would peak and stabilize after weeks 4 or 5) and the gains being androgen-related are less likely...

[helium3]

WTF does that mean? Frontloading, as in doing double the maintenance dose within the first week or before the first half life... to get blood levels up right away. If you frontloaded it then I can see where the gains within three weeks would be androgen-related... if you didn't frontload it, then you haven't even peaked yet (TE would peak and stabilize after weeks 4 or 5) and the gains being androgen-related are less likely...

that means that my test levels were up and stable straight away dont give a s@@t wether its called frontloading or not.

[magic32]

Uh oh...

M.

[Warrior]

Uh oh...

M.

[magic32]

Good call.
Glad you pounce on helium, I saw one coming.

M.

[helium3]

i originally got an idea from this:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t=frontloading

but i realise the post i made was confusing(after waking up) so yes i did take a gram the first week them 500 ew after that,i guess i didnt expect much muscle growth in such a short space of time but was really supprised to take on that much water,if i use again i will def frontload.

[Warrior]

Yeah - I usually do frontload... and you can notice quicker feedback from the cycle due to the quicker rise and stability of plasma levels. All 10-14 pounds wouln't be muscle but I am sure you have built up some - how are your lifts? Any signs of water retention or edema (especially in the face)?

Just reread your first post and you do notice some water retention. It's a good time to start some Arimidex or Nolvadex. Drink plenty of water and avoid too many sugars or alcohol...

[helium3]

lets see i when i noticed the water after the first week(about 5lbs)my face blew up a bit not pretty but it wasnt that bad,at the time the water went on i noticed a jump in strength 10-15lb on bench then this week being week 3 the weight went up alot and my bench went up again totaling a 20-25lb increase which is great,im taking it steady though dont wanna push too hard too fast let my body adapt.i have been taking nolva 10mg ed so far with no probs.im feeling some psycological effects ie:confidence,increased aggression but nothin i cant handle,yesterday i had the feeling i could stop a mac truck with one hand lol,strange but true(the feeling).im starting to get that "on" feeling i know its early but the f/load really helped me thinks.

[helium3]

oh and i have been drinking but not alot in one session.