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    Tbol/Var Cycle

    About to begin a Tbol/Var cycle tomorrow. Im going to be running them at 50mg/50mg per day for eight weeks. I have my diet and PCT in place and i'll keep everyone posted thats interested in my progress with this cycle. I'll try and post up at least twice per week.

    Stats now
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    11% BF

    For those I talked with about the Test E, EQ, Tbol cycle........I'm still going to run that but not until fall/winter. Wanted to do a quick eight weeker before summer!!
    Last edited by nickd10; 04-13-2006 at 11:32 AM.

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    Goodluck.

    What are your goals for this cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellmask
    Goodluck.

    What are your goals for this cycle?

    Well obviously with this combo im not looking for much bulk but I would like to put on 10 lbs and drop 2-3%BF. With training and diet in check it should work out nicely.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickd10
    Well obviously with this combo im not looking for much bulk but I would like to put on 10 lbs and drop 2-3%BF. With training and diet in check it should work out nicely.....


    10lbs of muscle is obtainable. 10lbs of weight added on your current weight minus the 2-3% BF might be alittle troublesome.


    You will feel nice pumps + decent strength gains. Weight won't shift much, but you will look leaner. For someone trying to look like a "bodybuilder" it's not that good of a stack. Produces small lean gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellmask
    10lbs of muscle is obtainable. 10lbs of weight added on your current weight minus the 2-3% BF might be alittle troublesome.


    You will feel nice pumps + decent strength gains. Weight won't shift much, but you will look leaner. For someone trying to look like a "bodybuilder" it's not that good of a stack. Produces small lean gains.

    Completely agree as far as the BF reduction, we'll see how it goes. Im not lookin for the "bodybuilder" look just yet, i'll move with that goal this fall with the test, EQ cycle. Just doing this one to lean up a bit and put on something extra before summer. Looking forward to how these compunds react with my body for future stacks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellmask
    10lbs of muscle is obtainable. 10lbs of weight added on your current weight minus the 2-3% BF might be alittle troublesome.


    You will feel nice pumps + decent strength gains. Weight won't shift much, but you will look leaner. For someone trying to look like a "bodybuilder" it's not that good of a stack. Produces small lean gains.

    Hellmask.......I think your running the same compounds, how has it gone so far?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickd10
    Hellmask.......I think your running the same compounds, how has it gone so far?


    It's gone OK. Been sick lately and other things have come up to hinder my training somewhat.

    Weight has increased about 5lbs....look leaner lost a few pounds of BF.

    Strength up slightly, should shoot up pretty well in the next few weeks though.

    Good for my specific goals.

    But if I was looking for size and strength gains I would do a test cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellmask
    10lbs of muscle is obtainable. 10lbs of weight added on your current weight minus the 2-3% BF might be alittle troublesome.


    You will feel nice pumps + decent strength gains. Weight won't shift much, but you will look leaner. For someone trying to look like a "bodybuilder" it's not that good of a stack. Produces small lean gains.
    It really depends how far he is from his natty potential. If he is a long ways and eats enough, he will add ten pounds without teh gear, with it he could gain the 15 he wants (10 pounds, plus 5 pounds weight loss = net change of 15 pounds), if he is right up to it, I doubt he will gain any weight, but may get tighter and lose 3% BF and retain the same weight (i.e. a gain of about 6 pounds of lean muscle.)

    Fun cycle for people that don't like needles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by znak
    It really depends how far he is from his natty potential. If he is a long ways and eats enough, he will add ten pounds without teh gear, with it he could gain the 15 he wants (10 pounds, plus 5 pounds weight loss = net change of 15 pounds), if he is right up to it, I doubt he will gain any weight, but may get tighter and lose 3% BF and retain the same weight (i.e. a gain of about 6 pounds of lean muscle.)

    Fun cycle for people that don't like needles.

    True.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellmask
    10lbs of muscle is obtainable. 10lbs of weight added on your current weight minus the 2-3% BF might be alittle troublesome.


    You will feel nice pumps + decent strength gains. Weight won't shift much, but you will look leaner. For someone trying to look like a "bodybuilder" it's not that good of a stack. Produces small lean gains.
    What do you mean by this? This stack will be all lean muscle increase. everything else i agree!! just confused i guess

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    sounds good.. going to be run something VERY similar coming up next.. keep us updated on your progress..

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    I'm running something similar right now, only using superdrol instaed of turinabol. I'm using each at 40mg/day and the strength gains are coming along really well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickd10
    About to begin a Tbol/Var cycle tomorrow. Im going to be running them at 50mg/50mg per day for eight weeks. I have my diet and PCT in place and i'll keep everyone posted thats interested in my progress with this cycle. I'll try and post up at least twice per week.

    Stats now
    5'11''
    184lbs
    11% BF

    For those I talked with about the Test E, EQ, Tbol cycle........I'm still going to run that but not until fall/winter. Wanted to do a quick eight weeker before summer!!


    Var works better at 75mg-80mg ED................

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. snakes
    Var works better at 75mg-80mg ED................


    It even works better at 100mgs-120mgs........


    But 50/50 is a good dose for tbol/var for 8 weeks.

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    Keep us posted man, this is a cycle that i think is very interesting. Id like to know what your strength gains are like

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    beware your liver

    with all those orals going in you're going to have elevated liver values big time. expect to have a major bloated feeling on the right side around week 5 or 6. you'll feel like you have a full stomach when you breathe. you're also going to be tough on your lipid profile. not good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJJC
    with all those orals going in you're going to have elevated liver values big time. expect to have a major bloated feeling on the right side around week 5 or 6. you'll feel like you have a full stomach when you breathe. you're also going to be tough on your lipid profile. not good.


    ^^^^^^

    Got any proof to back up these false claims buddy?

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    cool man keep us updated! Ive seen many people wanting to run this type of cycle but are hesitant due to lack of feedback. But in theory its a relativly safe cycle, good luck to you.

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    Update...

    Aright so im about two and a half weeks in right now. I'm still at where I was about a week ago with an additional slight vascular change (while at the gym).
    Muscles are beginning to feel harder and strength in growing pretty steadily but nothing way out of the ordinary. Pumps are great! No sides yet......
    Week three is coming around though and hopefully I really start to see the effects on a higher level.

    Note: I also want to point out that for the past four months I have not had a cardio session. I am going to start to incorporate that two to three times a week in the beginning of week three.

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    3 1/2 weeks in.......

    Strength has increased quite a bit in the past week. Work outs are getting much more intense.
    Vascularity is starting to become more evident. Starting to see a slight change in my body. However, weight is only up 3lbs from the start of the cycle. Muscles seem to be getting harder as the weeks go on.
    Have not really seen any sides yet. Slight back (kidney) pain once in a while but nothing major.

    Note: I was splitting the dose up five times a day for the first three weeks and have now switched to three times a day. No reason for this really just trying some things out to see if it makes a difference.

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    I am doing the same cycle real soon!! Whats everybodies opinion on Milk thistle intake?

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    YO nickd10

    Im curious on what your pct will consist of at the end of your 8 week cycle?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ark22
    YO nickd10

    Im curious on what your pct will consist of at the end of your 8 week cycle?

    Thanks
    Day one 300mg's clomid
    Day 2-14 100mg's clomid
    Day 15-28 50mg's Clomid

    Day 1-35 120mcg's Clen

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    any update on the cycle?

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