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  1. 04-10-2006, 10:09 AM #1
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    Theory on REDUCING/PREVENTING acne during PCT

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    I used aromasin during and with PCT so far and barely any acne. Great stuff.
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  3. 04-10-2006, 10:15 AM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    I used aromasin during and with PCT so far and barely any acne. Great stuff.
    Good to hear.
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    Ive never had a problem with acne but alot of my friends have, and they have tried everything possible to cure the problem and i can honestly say nothing has been successfull, alot of the compounds they have used have eased the symptoms but nothing as totally cleared them up, is there anyone who as totally cleared the acne up with a certain compound?
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    I know Meso didnt like Tren . Said he got acne from it. Stopped using it and it went away.
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    Isnt Hcg not supposed to be used Pct?
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    Nice theory Swift but it only covers one half of the problem. DHT and strong androgens in genaral cause acne as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big k.l.g
    Nice theory Swift but it only covers one half of the problem. DHT and strong androgens in genaral cause acne as well.
    Yeah...I know. Its worth a try though.
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    I am using Pro-activ now. First my skin got a little worse, and then it cleard up ekstremely well. My face-skin is like a girls now.

    Using an AI in PCT is a good idea, not only to reduce estrogen-related acne. But it also seems that, when you lower your estrogen levels, the "Pituitary" will automatically start to produce more Testosterone . Probaly because the Testosterone-estrogen ratio is supposed to be on a certain level, so when estrogen gets to low, the "hypotalamus" will think that it has to produce more testosterone, so estrogen levels can get back in normal range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vitor
    I am using Pro-activ now. First my skin got a little worse, and then it cleard up ekstremely well. My face-skin is like a girls now.

    Using an AI in PCT is a good idea, not only to reduce estrogen-related acne. But it also seems that, when you lower your estrogen levels, the "Pituitary" will automatically start to produce more Testosterone. Probaly because the Testosterone-estrogen ratio is supposed to be on a certain level, so when estrogen gets to low, the "hypotalamus" will think that it has to produce more testosterone, so estrogen levels can get back in normal range.
    First you're using primo, now you're on pro-activ? You wanna tell us something? J/K

    Pro-activ is great stuff my girl uses it and that shit works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big k.l.g
    First you're using primo, now you're on pro-activ? You wanna tell us something? J/K
    Hey!!! Ime not gay if thats what youre getting at...
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  12. 04-10-2006, 12:40 PM #12
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    can aromasin be used on cycle to help reduce acne?
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    Quote Originally Posted by big k.l.g
    Nice theory Swift but it only covers one half of the problem. DHT and strong androgens in genaral cause acne as well.
    So would a DHT blocker then be the most appropiate for durring cycle to reduce the acne caused by the "DHT and strong androgens"??


    Then aromasin durring pct...

    Makes sence?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tvd220
    can aromasin be used on cycle to help reduce acne?
    Yes, any AI can be used. I just choose Letro as its the strongest at reducing estrogen and is easier to access than others.
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    sooo...would AI and a DHT blocker combo be ok for durring a "on cycle" to reduce acne sides, in a sence, blocking both angles?
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    there has been alot of talk on AR lately about acne sides,and it seems that alot of bros are suffereing from it. So if there is anything that can reduce these sides, before they start, i think it can be beneficial to everyone
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    so we could implement it into out cycles,
    "perfect" for my low acne cycle i am working on
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    Its doubtful, but, I would predict that 'some' can still get sides, like acne, from the less harsh androgens, Var/Primo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vitor
    Hey!!! Ime not gay if thats what youre getting at...
    Whoa! Someone needs to take a joke, that 3g primo got you paranoid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto
    Its doubtful, but, I would predict that 'some' can still get sides, like acne, from the less harsh androgens, Var/Primo.
    sorry swifto, whats doubtful? That the dht blocker and am would work to help reduce acne sides?
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    A DHT blocker could only work best with AAS that can be A5 reduced. Testosterone , boldenone , nandrolone .

    Trenbolone , methenolone, trestolone, oxandrolone and the other DHT derived and highly androgenic steroids are not affected by DHT blockers.

    Edit: Testosterone and an anti-E/DHT IMO is best for the have acne prone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big k.l.g
    Whoa! Someone needs to take a joke, that 3g primo got you paranoid?
    3200mgs Primo actually+other stuff.

    All that juice is defently getting to me, lol...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tvd220
    sorry swifto, whats doubtful? That the dht blocker and am would work to help reduce acne sides?
    Its doubtful you'll get sides like acne from the less harsh androgens, but a reality. They may occur, but very uncommon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vitor
    3200mgs Primo actually+other stuff.

    All that juice is defently getting to me, lol...
    what's the 'other stuff'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vitor
    3200mgs Primo actually+other stuff.

    All that juice is defently getting to me, lol...
    Hows the Primo going?

    You 2 thread hijackers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by big k.l.g
    A DHT blocker could only work best with AAS that can be A5 reduced. Testosterone, boldenone, nandrolone. Trenbolone, methenolone, trestolone, oxandrolone and the other DHT derived and highly androgenic steroids are not affected by DHT blockers.
    so putting a DHT blocker is senseless in a test cycle?
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    or let me say.... so putting a DHT blocker in a test cycle is senseless to reduce acne sides??
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    Quote Originally Posted by big k.l.g
    what's the 'other stuff'?
    700mgs ew of Prop, and yust added 40mgs ed of Haloestin.

    Halo promotes some sick strenght-gains
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto
    Hows the Primo going?

    You 2 thread hijackers!
    Primo is going greate. It hardens up your muscle like few other compounds can, and at this dose, Ime seeing decent LBM-gains as well...

    You should try it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by vitor
    Primo is going greate. It hardens up your muscle like few other compounds can, and at this dose, Ime seeing decent LBM-gains as well...

    You should try it...
    I will...One day. Its soooo expensive though. Going to Eygpt soon and possibly Thailand. So, we'll see...
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    Swifto; Interesting thread. I've been thinking the same thing about AI and acne... It should work, dont you think..

    Do you believe in b5 vitamine? Ive used alot...cant relly tell if it worked or not. Very expensive vs effectiveness too. Im on accutane now.

    What did you say about boldenone and DHT .... bolden isnt much androgenic anyways, is it...

    Doing 500mg of test, and 500+mg of eq right now. Started this week.
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    Swifto: Glad I could help bro. As for the PCT you have outlined...it looks great. I hope for everyone’s sake that it works as well in practice as it does in theory. Please keep us all posted on your sides during pct.

    Ace: B5 works pretty well at around 10g/day split up 5X a day. Results take a while to show and you must be consistent with dosing. I've found that it's less effective the second time around...but worth a shot none the less. And there are places online that sells B5 in powder form very cheap. Just do a search.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big k.l.g
    A DHT blocker could only work best with AAS that can be A5 reduced. Testosterone , boldenone , nandrolone .

    Trenbolone , methenolone, trestolone, oxandrolone and the other DHT derived and highly androgenic steroids are not affected by DHT blockers.

    Edit: Testosterone and an anti-E/DHT IMO is best for the have acne prone.
    Ok, so if you stated first that testosterone is not affected by dht blockers,
    then you said that a anti-e and dht blocker is good is you are acne prone....

    Could you clear this up bro? Because this is of high interest to me, and I was trying to figure it out. Thanx alot man we all apprecitate it
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    What about antibiotics to cure / prevent the acne?
    It is bacteria that courses the acne, and the bacteria can grow due to the change of your skin (more fat e.g.).

    Sure, keep it clean, we have in the Netherlands "cleracil" a face tonic that works OK. Also some nizorol does wonders
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    Proviron is an AI...but isnt it used for androgen replacement in men? or something to that effect?
    could it cause acne itself..i just started it for a halodrol pct..but sex drive is up but im starting to break out a little on my face which hasnt happened in a very long time

    could it be the proviron>??
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    Very interesting Swifto.......gonna keep that in mind.....thx
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    Dawn Dishwashing Detergent used ED (APPLE BLOSSOM sniff sniff) with scrub brush after soap & Tanning twice a week have virtually eliminated all of my bacne, shoulder and chest acne and I've gotten some serious acne before being on PCT.
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    Bump to see if anyone has tried this or had any success.
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