Var ok for cutting and holding muscle ???

**BuildaBeast** · 04-10-2006, 03:04 PM

Hey Bros I wanted to see if I wanted to cut some fat and keep the muscle I have would it be good to run a var only cycle. I was thinking that it would help maintain the muscle I have while trying to cut down for the summer? I know that all of this has to do with diet but the var should keep me form loosing muscle?

Thanks

**bignatt** · 04-10-2006, 03:05 PM

Yes It Will

***D7M*** · 04-10-2006, 03:36 PM

yah, def.

**BuildaBeast** · 04-11-2006, 12:18 PM

What kind of pct is there for Var only cycle?

Should the var be a 8 or 10 week cycle?

Any idea how much BF can be lost with the diet and training be spot on?

**Swifto** · 04-11-2006, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by BuildaBeast

What kind of pct is there for Var only cycle? A lightish PCT is required. Anavar wont shut the HPTA completely down, but will inhibit it. Clomid 100mg/ED for 1 week, then 50mg/ED for 2 weeks. Nolva 20mg/ED throughout.

Should the var be a 8 or 10 week cycle? On its own, or with other compounds? It depends on your goals also.

Any idea how much BF can be lost with the diet and training be spot on? To many variables to answer this.

BOLDS.

**BuildaBeast** · 04-11-2006, 02:28 PM

Swifto I appreciate your input. On the nolva are you saying use it during the cycle or just during the pct? I ask because if it is to use during the cycle I thought in the profile that is would not produce the estrogen sides. If nolva and clomid is to be used both for pct then I understand. Thanks Man

**Hellmaskbanned** · 04-11-2006, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by BuildaBeast

Swifto I appreciate your input. On the nolva are you saying use it during the cycle or just during the pct? I ask because if it is to use during the cycle I thought in the profile that is would not produce the estrogen sides. If nolva and clomid is to be used both for pct then I understand. Thanks Man

Only during pct.

**Swifto** · 04-11-2006, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by BuildaBeast

Swifto I appreciate your input. On the nolva are you saying use it during the cycle or just during the pct? I ask because if it is to use during the cycle I thought in the profile that is would not produce the estrogen sides. If nolva and clomid is to be used both for pct then I understand. Thanks Man

Use it during PCT. It has no need whilst "on" as Anavar doesnt aromotase.

**Act of God** · 04-11-2006, 05:00 PM

I am running the same var only cycle (60mg ed - 8 weeks) and I am running my clen /ECA (alternating correctly) along with it...I have the same goals.

how much cardio should I be doing? I have been steppin it up, goin just about every day i workout for 30 minutes fairly hard. I just want to make sure I don't overdo it and shrink. I am pretty lean (semi-vascular) everywhere except the waistline.

any input?

**Random** · 04-11-2006, 05:13 PM

var is excellent, i put on 9 lbs and dropped a good amount of bodyfat, im gonna post a cycle diary very soon, i saw amazing results...

**Random** · 04-11-2006, 05:14 PM

for PCT most people just use clomid at 50mg per day for 2 wks...

**znak** · 04-11-2006, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by BuildaBeast

What kind of pct is there for Var only cycle?

Should the var be a 8 or 10 week cycle?

Any idea how much BF can be lost with the diet and training be spot on?

I you are looking to lose BF, there are better ways to go other than var if your blood pressure is ok-- clen for example.

A ten week cycle at 60-80 mg ed and you could lose 20 pounds safely and add some lean muscle mass at the same time.

**Act of God** · 04-11-2006, 06:39 PM

var+clen is ok right?

**BuildaBeast** · 04-12-2006, 10:03 AM

Znak,

So your saying a 10 week cycle of clen only could net 20 pounds of fat?

**chest6** · 04-12-2006, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by BuildaBeast

Znak,

So your saying a 10 week cycle of clen only could net 20 pounds of fat?

that depends on your diet and cardio much more than the clen

**dbstyles** · 04-12-2006, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by Act of God

I am running the same var only cycle (60mg ed - 8 weeks) and I am running my clen /ECA (alternating correctly) along with it...I have the same goals.

how much cardio should I be doing? I have been steppin it up, goin just about every day i workout for 30 minutes fairly hard. I just want to make sure I don't overdo it and shrink. I am pretty lean (semi-vascular) everywhere except the waistline.

any input?

How much might not be the correct question.

2 things that you have to take into effect here:
1. Diet - the ratio of macros throughout the day
2. And your target heart rate. 220-age=MHR then keep your heart rate at 65% of that number for 45-60 4-5 times a week

Adjust the ratios and duration as needed to achive the goals through your cycle.

A good balance of high intensity lifting and lower intensity cardio with a ECY/Clen cycle and proper diet while give you the results.

**Rocky IV** · 04-12-2006, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by BuildaBeast

Znak,

So your saying a 10 week cycle of clen only could net 20 pounds of fat?

Depends on gentetics and diet..clen is a fraction of that

**Rocky IV** · 04-12-2006, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by CaptainDominate

var is excellent, i put on 9 lbs and dropped a good amount of bodyfat, im gonna post a cycle diary very soon, i saw amazing results...

Yea var is greate(; how many mg per day and run for long did you do so?

**Random** · 04-12-2006, 11:45 AM

im running it for 7 weeks, in the 6th now, gonna post a diary plus bloodwork done 1 wk after...

**znak** · 04-12-2006, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by chest6

that depends on your diet and cardio much more than the clen

Beast-

Agree with this post, but clen gives you the energy and var makes it really fun to lift cause you are making progress for ten weeks.

I know you have been working this for a while Beast. If you have your diet in control (clen destroys my appetite), have your cardio together twice a week and have fun lifting 4x a week. Yeah, knowing your stats, I would stand by 20 pounds in ten weeks. That is two pounds a week. A realistic, sane goal.

**Rocky IV** · 04-12-2006, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by CaptainDominate

im running it for 7 weeks, in the 6th now, gonna post a diary plus bloodwork done 1 wk after...

nice to hear you like it...ima fan too of var,,how many mg a day are you running?

**Rocky IV** · 04-12-2006, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by znak

Beast-

Agree with this post, but clen gives you the energy and var makes it really fun to lift cause you are making progress for ten weeks.

I know you have been working this for a while Beast. If you have your diet in control (clen destroys my appetite), have your cardio together twice a week and have fun lifting 4x a week. Yeah, knowing your stats, I would stand by 20 pounds in ten weeks. That is two pounds a week. A realistic, sane goal.

If clen suppreses your appatite try using vitamine b12 worked like a charm for me

**Random** · 04-12-2006, 05:19 PM

rocky..im running it at 60mg ED.....

**Rocky IV** · 04-12-2006, 05:31 PM

sounds good im just in pct right now im goona train natural again for two months and then start a var only cyclei respond very well to it as well,,i might add some tbol depending on how a feel by then