DHT-BLOCKER for acne

[tvd220]

Which is the best dht blocker for reducing androgenic acne durring a cycle of Test?
From another site, finasteride was recomended, but I have never hurd of its anti-acne features...

[tvd220]

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[tvd220]

damn, anybody? can i at least get a flame?

[Bulkcut]

Finastride does block DHT but its for previnting hair loss & for prostate problems
for Acne you should look in to using ACCUTANE

[tvd220]

yea already on it. I have just hurd that dht blockers are good becaue dht is what caused the androgenic sides ie acne

[Bulkcut]

allready on accutane and still acne? wow
man i didn't know if there is anything else beside that
accutane is horrible for your liver too
it gave me super dry skin
dry lips where they would freakin crack in middle of night
and also lower back pain

[Swifto]

Increased estrogen, using harsh androgens, DHT and using compounds that have particular sides to the individual, all contribute to acne.

[ace ventura]

accutane is horrible for your liver too

I hear people say this... I've gone to two drifferent doctors, no one mentioned a word about liver.. Why don't they recomand "clean diet", lots of *****3, milk thistle etc. Can't be that bad comparing to steroids if they never talk about it..?

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[tvd220]

well, the accutane is working, i just dont want to trigger the acne back, so some people suggested a dht blocker with in my test cycle
Ive been on accutane for a few months now, sides are not too bad at all, just some dry lips and gotta put lotion on my face. Defianlly would recomend it at this point.
BUT still back to my question, anybody know a good dht blocker that would help reduce acne sides before they start?

[tvd220]

I hear people say this... I've gone to two drifferent doctors, no one mentioned a word about liver.. Why don't they recomand "clean diet", lots of *****3, milk thistle etc. Can't be that bad comparing to steroids if they never talk about it..?

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ok my doc never mentioned any of that, but where do i find those substances you just mentioned?

[big chuck]

Dunno y u think DHT blockers such as finasteride or dutasteride will prevent acne....they dont no dht blockers prevent acne only hairloss n prostate goto the dermatologist theyll get u sumn like tetracyclin..it works reall good prolly best stuff

[tvd220]

already got accutane.
It was told to me that high DHT levels is what causes the acne sides, and if you use a dht blocker, then you should have less androgenic acne sides....

[brutesinme]

as i understand it, there are 2 enzymatic pathways for test to turn into DHT. One pathway exists in the prostate and scalp, both finisteride and dutasteride will help prevent this conversion. The other pathway exists in the skin, finisteride will do nothing here, but dutasteride blocks this pathway as well. I am prone to MPB so i am running finisteride. I've heard that duta is harsher on the sides, and as i don't get acne i decided not to get it.

[tvd220]

as i understand it, there are 2 enzymatic pathways for test to turn into DHT. One pathway exists in the prostate and scalp, both finisteride and dutasteride will help prevent this conversion. The other pathway exists in the skin, finisteride will do nothing here, but dutasteride blocks this pathway as well. I am prone to MPB so i am running finisteride. I've heard that duta is harsher on the sides, and as i don't get acne i decided not to get it.

ok, so your saying dutasteride should block the pathway that leads to the skin? Thankyou for your post, its the closest I got to an answer so far!

[FullMoonHowlingWolf]

tvd220, for help with your acne have you tried using Pantothenic Acid (B-5)? You have to take between 5 - 10 grams a day. Slowly work your way up to 10 grams, yes 10,000 mg a day, so you don't get diarrhea. Personally I take 1000 mg per meal and I eat at least 6 times a day. Doing this noticeably helps my acne from using gear.

[ace ventura]

I have 200 tabs of 1000mgs B5. Will it have any effect since I'm on accutane?

$40 each bottle of 90 tabs.

Should I save it for pct? I think my accutane treatment ends before pct.

Btw, don't use tetraclin/oxytetral with accutane.

[tvd220]

I have 200 tabs of 1000mgs B5. Will it have any effect since I'm on accutane?

$40 each bottle of 90 tabs.

Should I save it for pct? I think my accutane treatment ends before pct.

Btw, don't use tetraclin/oxytetral with accutane.

i was about to ask the same question, i also, am on accutane, and will be through cycle

[energizer bunny]

Increased estrogen, using harsh androgens, DHT and using compounds that have particular sides to the individual, all contribute to acne.

didnt you do a thread on this? saying that anti es could help control acne.
maybe it could be of some help?

[arnold_of_malta]

aramidex at just 0.25mg daily helps with acne alot for me!!!!!!!!

[tvd220]

didnt you do a thread on this? saying that anti es could help control acne.
maybe it could be of some help?

He was speaking on pct, I am asking about a dht blocker during cycle

[thegodfather]

This thread is like the blind leading the blind...hit up the search button...and look into ketoconazole 1%...or nizoral 1%...get the benefits of stopping DHT from binding to the sebaceous gland without ingesting an anti-androgen. You should try to find Anthony Roberts thread on this very subject, as some of the people posting info here dont have a ****in clue what they're talking about. Here, I'll even do the work for you...

http://forums.steroid.com/search.php?searchid=2792525

http://forums.steroid.com/search.php?searchid=2792548

[FLEXrr]

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[helium3]

GLA, ALA, and Linoleic Acid
Gamma Linolenic Acid (GLA), Alpha Linolenic Acid (ALA), and Linoleic Acid are essential fatty acids found in plant oils. GLA, ALA, and Linoleic Acid have been individually shown to inhibit 5-Alpha Reductase. In fact these are the most powerful inhibitors of 5-Alpha Reductase known today. In addition, not only they inhibit the Type II form of the 5-Alpha Reductase which other products like Propecia® inhibit, but also the Type I form of the enzyme which is present in high concentrations in the scalp and the skin. Oleic acids also having potent anti-inflammatory properties.

Azelaic Acid, Vitamin B6 and Zinc
Azelaic acid is a naturally occurring dicarboxylic acid found in whole grain cereals, rye, and barley and animal products. It is FDA approved as a topical preparation for treatment of acne and is effective against a number of other skin conditions when applied topically. There is strong scientific evidence that Azelaic Acid and Zinc are potent inhibitors of 5-Alpha-Reductase. When Azelaic acid, Vitamin B6 and Zinc Sulfate where added together at very low concentrations, 90% inhibition of 5 Alpha-Reductase activity was obtained. The synergistic activity of these compounds against 5-Alpha-Reductase makes this combination very effective in treatment of male pattern baldness.

" By combining GLA, ALA, Linoleic Acid, Azelaic acid, Vitamin B6, Zinc Sulfate and Saw Palmetto extract, we have created a natural yet extremely powerful anti-DHT formula. These ingredients work through different mechanisms to synergistically inhibit both type 1 and 2 forms of 5-Alpha Reductase and decrease DHT locally. By decreasing the DHT levels, hair follicles can grow and thicken naturally, leading to a fuller, healthier scalp without the side effects associated with synthetic drugs."


interesting tit bit.i use zinc,b6 and evening primrose(gla),i dont have a single spot,no increased body hair growth except i have to shave more lol

[thaisteroids]

This thread is like the blind leading the blind...hit up the search button...and look into ketoconazole 1%...or nizoral 1%...get the benefits of stopping DHT from binding to the sebaceous gland without ingesting an anti-androgen. You should try to find Anthony Roberts thread on this very subject, as some of the people posting info here dont have a ****in clue what they're talking about. Here, I'll even do the work for you...

http://forums.steroid.com/search.php?searchid=2792525

http://forums.steroid.com/search.php?searchid=2792548

right on the spot

[tvd220]

I have been interested in DHT blockers as well because I am going to start a cycle at the beginning of the summer and I'm concerned about hair loss due to androgenic/DHT side effects. So I did alot of research and decided to try Procerin, (OTC DHT blocker), even though my dermatologist has never heard of it. So I thought I'd try it now and see how it works because I'm not going to start my cycle for a little over a month an a half and if it does not I switch to fina. or dura. So I began taking the pills Monday and today is Wendesday and obviously its too early to start seeing hair growth results, but my face does not have 1 pimple on it. This is extremly rare for me. About 5 or more years ago I took accutane and it cleared up my acne wonderfully, but now with all the supplements and related bodybuilding diet my face usually has 1-2 pimples a day. (unless I go tanning for 3-4 days strait). But the point is, I haven't been tanning, and have not done anything different this week,except take procerin, and my face is completely clear. Could this just be coincidence? of course. But when was the last time my face was this clear? Probably when I was on accutance and my face was dry and cracking and no chance for bacteria survival. I thought this would help you since are concerned about acne. I will keep you updated.

bro, thanx alot on the post, I appreciate you taking the time to answer. It would make sence, keep me posted and good luck brother

[tvd220]

" By combining GLA, ALA, Linoleic Acid, Azelaic acid, Vitamin B6, Zinc Sulfate and Saw Palmetto extract, we have created a natural yet extremely powerful anti-DHT formula. These ingredients work through different mechanisms to synergistically inhibit both type 1 and 2 forms of 5-Alpha Reductase and decrease DHT locally. By decreasing the DHT levels, hair follicles can grow and thicken naturally, leading to a fuller, healthier scalp without the side effects associated with synthetic drugs."


What is this substance they have created? Where do we get it?? This is oral administration?

[FLEXrr]

" By combining GLA, ALA, Linoleic Acid, Azelaic acid, Vitamin B6, Zinc Sulfate and Saw Palmetto extract, we have created a natural yet extremely powerful anti-DHT formula. These ingredients work through different mechanisms to synergistically inhibit both type 1 and 2 forms of 5-Alpha Reductase and decrease DHT locally. By decreasing the DHT levels, hair follicles can grow and thicken naturally, leading to a fuller, healthier scalp without the side effects associated with synthetic drugs."

If you look at the ingredients in Procerin, its basically what he^ just explained, I'm taking procerin and some added flaxseed oil for that extra ALA which has multiple beneifits...

[tvd220]

and procerin sells at any drug store?

[FLEXrr]

No, you have to go to www.procerin.com, there is even a discussion section on the site.

[tvd220]

alright flex, good looks, Ill let you know how it goes...

[helium3]

i think the info i gave is also in something called revivogen,aimed at the hair but useful for skin(i think).

[tvd220]

This is what they have posted on the website, is this what you were talking about?

The main active ingredients in the Revivogen formula, have been scientifically proven to reduce the production of DHT by blocking the activity of the enzyme, 5-alpha-reductase. This enzyme converts testosterone to DHT and is present in the hair follicles and scalp at high levels. Other ingredients block the androgen receptors and stimulate hair growth.

By blocking the activity of 5-alpha-reductase and lowering the concentration of DHT in the scalp, Revivogen helps to revitalize and protect the hair follicle. Because you apply Revivogen topically, it provides concentrated delivery of the active ingredients to the hair follicle — where DHT is produced — without any systemic effects.

Propecia® (Finasteride), a synthetic medication prescribed for hair loss, also works by reducing DHT through blocking 5-alpha-reductase. However, Propecia® may be associated with systemic side effects including loss of libido and can not be used by women.

[Johnny Gotti]

Nizolral shampoo is a very god startan is wokring for me.

[Johnny Gotti]

it is expensive 18$ a bottle but it doens the trick