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    when will the clen kick in?

    Me and my wife both started are clen yesterday.
    I have the 40mcg Hube clen and I took 40mcg yesterday and my wife took 20mcg.
    Today I took 40 mcg at about 6:30 in the morning and another 40mcg's at 11am.
    I think I feel it a litte but not sure. I had a hard time sleeping last nighyt and was sweaty, but I sweat everynight as it is. My wife took 30mcg today. Yesterday on the 20mcg she was a little shakey. Her temperature is up to about 99.9, but mine is the same, a little low actually 98.4.
    Since I just came off a cycle of test and deca could my receptors already be shot. I am in my second week of clomid and novadex.
    I guess I will take another 40mcg and see what happens?
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    AAS do not affect your beta receptors, read this

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=clen+handbook

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    thanks but I already read all the sticky's and handbook

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    Just keep bumpin till you feel it. Sounds like your wife already has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msu16366
    Me and my wife both started are clen yesterday.
    I have the 40mcg Hube clen and I took 40mcg yesterday and my wife took 20mcg.
    Today I took 40 mcg at about 6:30 in the morning and another 40mcg's at 11am.
    I think I feel it a litte but not sure. I had a hard time sleeping last nighyt and was sweaty, but I sweat everynight as it is. My wife took 30mcg today. Yesterday on the 20mcg she was a little shakey. Her temperature is up to about 99.9, but mine is the same, a little low actually 98.4.
    Since I just came off a cycle of test and deca could my receptors already be shot. I am in my second week of clomid and novadex.
    I guess I will take another 40mcg and see what happens?
    ANy thoughts?

    bro, you need to taper the dose up so that you reach 125 mcgs ed. running 40 mcgs ed imo wouldn't be very effective. btw, i feel the effects of the clen immediately after i take it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    bro, you need to taper the dose up so that you reach 125 mcgs ed. running 40 mcgs ed imo wouldn't be very effective. btw, i feel the effects of the clen immediately after i take it
    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    bro, you need to taper the dose up so that you reach 125 mcgs ed. running 40 mcgs ed imo wouldn't be very effective. btw, i feel the effects of the clen immediately after i take it
    Yep. Vets often jump in midramp and move up, but a novice SHOULD start at the very bottom (single dose) and increase daily by ONE dose.

    It virtually kicks in while you're still swallowing it.

    IMPORTANT NOTE: Brand and individual differences can cause side effect variations to the point that not everyone experiences them. Be careful this compound can fool you, if you take it and it’s legitimate, IT'S WORKING…you can’t always trust sides with this one!

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    just keep uping gradually everyday, youl soon feel the effects, some people can tolerate more, you could be one of them. post again if you get to 120mcg and cant feel anything.

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    Thanks guys, I just took another 1/2 about hour ago so that puts me at 100mcgs for the day and that will be it.
    I guess since I never taken it before I just dont know what to expect. I read all the handbooks and stickys, plus many others post about clen .

    Should my temperature be up by now or does it take time to make your temp increase. ALso I am using one of those ear thermonitor and it seems like a get a slight variane everytime.
    Just now my one ear was 99.1 and the other 98.7, NOw how come in the handbook it says to take your temperature in the morning, whats the difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msu16366
    Thanks guys, I just took another 1/2 about hour ago so that puts me at 100mcgs for the day and that will be it.
    I guess since I never taken it before I just dont know what to expect. I read all the handbooks and stickys, plus many others post about clen .

    Should my temperature be up by now or does it take time to make your temp increase. ALso I am using one of those ear thermonitor and it seems like a get a slight variane everytime.
    Just now my one ear was 99.1 and the other 98.7, NOw how come in the handbook it says to take your temperature in the morning, whats the difference?
    i never keep record of my temp, but i have heard that doing that is more effective, i think it works best keeping your temp between 97.8 f and 98.2 f.

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    your hands should be shaking like you saw a ghost by now.

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    Well I took a little nap for a 1/2 hour and I just woke up and my pillow is soaked in sweat. I guess it is working!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMent1on
    your hands should be shaking like you saw a ghost by now.

    haha yea thats for sure. clen makes my hands shake real bad. last time i was on it, my girls dad saw me and thought i was on meth or something

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    but do you think clen is effective as winistrol to cut down fat?????????????????????????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by arnold_of_malta
    but do you think clen is effective as winistrol to cut down fat?????????????????????????????

    ive never ran winni, so i dont know how the two compare as far as fat burning abilities. but in my experience, clen is over rated as a fat burner. but then again, ive never tried doing the two weeks on, two weeks off which is suggested for cutting. clen is pretty bad for you bro. imo, you should only take it during pct

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    ive never ran winni, so i dont know how the two compare as far as fat burning abilities. but in my experience, clen is over rated as a fat burner. but then again, ive never tried doing the two weeks on, two weeks off which is suggested for cutting. clen is pretty bad for you bro. imo, you should only take it during pct
    what do you mean clen is bad for you bro??????? what will it do ?????????????

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    and during pct how many mcgs shall i take daily and for how many weeks????

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    Quote Originally Posted by arnold_of_malta
    what do you mean clen is bad for you bro??????? what will it do ?????????????

    clen is terrible for you bro. it puts lots of stress on your heart. ive even heard that it will kill muscles in your heart, plus it fu_ks with your thyroid system and your bodies ability to regulate its temperature. but thats only if you take alot of it for a long time

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    Quote Originally Posted by arnold_of_malta
    and during pct how many mcgs shall i take daily and for how many weeks????

    run it like this:
    day 1 - 20 mcgs
    day 2 - 40 mcgs
    day 3 - 60 mcgs
    day 4 - 80 mcgs
    day 5 - 100 mcgs
    day 6 - 125 mcgs

    then stay at 125 mcgs ed for about two months, or at least until you finish your clomid

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    Quote Originally Posted by arnold_of_malta
    but do you think clen is effective as winistrol to cut down fat?????????????????????????????
    winny is not a fat burner it hardens your muscles, clen is a fat burner so clen is defo better for fat burning.

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    Take taurine with your clen to prevent the shakes and cramps!
    Last time I got the cramps so bad, I could not get up after a simple abs workout.....

    But it does do wonders

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    Help!

    If Winni isn't a good fat buner, what is? I'm not going to lie to you guys, my Uncle did all this stuff, but I have never used any of this it before. I'm almost comfortable muscle-wise, but I am looking to lose body fat, what do yall suggest? I do weights, however, I mostly swim, run, and more cardio, but I plan on adding more weight lifting. I really need to burn a lot of weight fast (2 months) I need help guys, what can you tell me?
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    Clen , and if you are still in a cycle, tren .

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    I'm not in a cycle yet, I never used before and I don't even know where to start. This is all new to me, but all you guys seem pretty cool, so I figured I'd ask. Is clen the best and or fastest? I'm also not good with the needles so pills or liquid would be best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UGADawg
    I'm not in a cycle yet, I never used before and I don't even know where to start. This is all new to me, but all you guys seem pretty cool, so I figured I'd ask. Is clen the best and or fastest?

    no, clen is way over rated as a fat burner. the fastest way to cut is to run any type of gear along with a strict cutting diet. the most well known stack is test prop/tren acetate, but since you have never done a cycle before, imo you would be best suited with a single ester test like test enanthate . that combined with a strict cutting diet will have you shreded to all hell by the time you finish your cycle

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    Cool, what do you reccomend for the diet?

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    And this is an injectant right? Is there a pill or liquid I can take instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UGADawg
    Cool, what do you reccomend for the diet?

    minimize calories while eating around 40 grams of protein and about 20 grams of complex carbs every three hours. id say that a total of 3000 calories a day would be good, but it would be ideal if you could get it lower than that

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    Quote Originally Posted by UGADawg
    And this is an injectant right? Is there a pill or liquid I can take instead?

    test enanthate is injectable, but i suppose you could try doing a cutting cycle of tbol/winni which would be all oral.

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    I swim 2 miles a day, run a mile and a half, bleachers for 45 min, and a smaller weight lift. Is the ECA Stack a good idea for me? Wouldn't it over work my heart?

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    Clen , eca, and ecy are fatburners. Gear doesnt burn fat.

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    Right, but the ephedra is going to speed up my heart, do I need to take that if I'm on an extensive Cardio workout? And what is a good brand of ECA or just ephedra even? Is Stack2 any good? And I guess, I'm a little confused now: are the ephedra free brands just as good, worse, or better than the ones with ephedra?

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    It will speed up your heart. No stack2 is not as good it doesnt have any ephedra in it. If your already on an "extensive" cardio workout, why are you looking for fatburners?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    run it like this:
    day 1 - 20 mcgs
    day 2 - 40 mcgs
    day 3 - 60 mcgs
    day 4 - 80 mcgs
    day 5 - 100 mcgs
    day 6 - 125 mcgs

    then stay at 125 mcgs ed for about two months, or at least until you finish your clomid
    Tren Bull this is the first time I think I wanted to slap you...

    Do not run clen two months or until finishing clomid. You may ask for some challenges. Now, I like Tren Bulls ramp up but I would go higher depending on the sides... I have not really been over 160mcg. I also suggest After two weeks to go off for two weeks then ramp up again and run for another two weeks - etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by roidattack
    Clen, eca, and ecy are fatburners. Gear doesnt burn fat.
    All due respect Roid,

    Granted Winny and Tbol only appear to burn because of there lean muscle production due largely to very high protein synthesizing abilities, and their clean, dry lbm.

    But Var does burn fat, and even passes the litmus test of doing so with and without exercise!

    Also Primo is an effective fat burner!

    Read their profiles and if you're still a doubter, see the referenced studies.

    M.
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    if fat burning is all you want then i would go with clen or an eca stack, bearing in mind that nothing will work unless diet and cardio are in check, im not saying steriods dont help burn fat, but that is not what they are mainly used for, clen IMO is best taken 2 weeks on 2 off, or 1 week on 1 week off, and on the off weeks an eca stack can be used, clen is allso said to have mild anabolic properties but this stops after 18 days or so, hope this helps bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magic32
    All due respect Roid,

    Granted Winny and Tbol only appear to burn because of there lean muscle production due largely to very high protein synthesizing abilities, and their clean, dry lbm.

    But Var does burn fat, and even passes the litmus test of doing so with and without exercise!

    Also Primo is an effective fat burner!

    Read their profiles and if you're still a doubter, see the referenced studies.

    M.

    You are correct!!!!
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    Thanks guys. One last question, and I'm sorry MSU16366 I totally hi-jacked your thread man, but I've been told about clen , ECA stack, test prop/tren acetate, test enanthate , tbol/winni, ECY, Var, Primo, and clen IMO 2 weeks on 2 off, or 1 week on 1 week off, and on the off weeks an eca stack can be used. I'm honestly just looking to help burn more fat in a shorter time, then right back to normal workouts. Also, taking into account that I am new to the suppliments and gear, what is the consenses on the best or fastest one to use, and after this MSU I swear I'll give you your thread back, thanks for letting me barrow it man.

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    ECA staack should not be used in the off period, a better idea would be then to run clen continously... read the clen profile from Hooker..

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    if u need to keep ur muscles and lose fat fast I would think about running 500 mg of test a week + clen ... That is if u never done roids before (and u are sure u wana use them).. I personally think test + cardio + diet is more effective than clen + diet + cardio.. JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by stupidhippo
    ECA staack should not be used in the off period, a better idea would be then to run clen continously... read the clen profile from Hooker..
    why should an eca not be used mate?

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