First Cycle Help Please

**doggydog** · 04-11-2006, 05:26 PM

hey i just wanted some help on my first cycle and was wondering what some people that had some actual info on the subject thought. now i know some of you will say i am young at 18, but the decision has been made and its something i have come to grips with. i have taken ample time to finally choose this. now for this cycle my goal will be to bulk up. i feel from the information i have garned this is the best route. my stats right now are 5'10" 185 pounds with 20% bf. Now I know these stats may sound a bit bad, but i am pretty strong. I max bench 270, and have squatted 405. I actually am the strongest kid at my high school (obviously not saying much). For my first cycle i have acquired the following compounds:

Test. Ethanate
Test. Propinate
D-Bol
Deca -Durobolin
Clomid

Now the problem i have is my source couldn't get me enough Test Ethanate, so he supplied some Propinate. Now here's the thing. I have enough to take 250 mg/week for 10 weeks of each test so that would be 500 mg of test a week. The Deca, I am set on, and the D-bol I only planned on using for four or five weeks. I was just wondering whether I should sell one test and get more of the one, or if a stack of Deca, Test Ethanate, Test Propinate, D-bol with Clomid recovery would be enough.

please help me so i won't screw up my first cycle.

**USfighterFC** · 04-11-2006, 05:31 PM

*Edit*

Missed the age. Too young for gear.

**SwoleCat** · 04-11-2006, 05:32 PM

18 years old and 20% bodyfat and you want to use steroids ?

I won't say anymore, you'll find out yourself down the road why this is
a rookie move.

~SC~

**lucabratzi** · 04-11-2006, 05:32 PM

i would sell all of it besides the test. e. and clomid...u dont need all those compounds. just test. e. and i dont think ur ready by a long shot..185 at 20% and ur lookin to bulk...even though u prob wont i think u should stash it and wait...u can get past 200lb w/less bf natty easy within a few years and save ur health and money...

**USfighterFC** · 04-11-2006, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

18 years old and 20% bodyfat and you want to use steroids ?

I won't say anymore, you'll find out yourself down the road why this is
a rookie move.

~SC~

Lol and I just totally missed that part.

**TheMudMan** · 04-11-2006, 05:39 PM

At 18 you shouldn't even think about a cycle.......

Read this Cycles for the Newbie

**doggydog** · 04-11-2006, 06:13 PM

alright guys you kind of got me with the age thing, but its going to be very very hard for a small town boy to lose this gear. and i mean very very hard. i live in a town where very few workout seriously (except myself), but i have reached a crossroad where the choice has really been made. i pondered everything and you see i just finished my athletic career (football/wrestling) and this is what I have decided on. now if you really think i should wait then well please tell me what age you think is right, and as a personal reassurance, if you don't mind, the age at which you started. but even if i am too young can you please just give me some advice so i don't screw up.
plz some help to this "young guy"

**longhorn814** · 04-11-2006, 06:21 PM

whats your diet like? how many calories a day do you eat? How many come from protein, carbs, and fat? If you cant gain naturally at your age, then you wont gain much and will keep even less if you take steroids and dont know how to eat properly. But hey its your body, if you want to fu(k it up!

Do you realize the side effects of taking gear at too early of an age? First off, your growth plates may not be closed so if you take it at your age, you will probably not grow anymore if they arent close. Second, youre still developing as a man. Youre endocrine system is not even close to being developed, taking steroids at your age, will mess up the development of your endocrine system and it may not fully develop b/c you will have shut it down with steroids and you face possible long term side effects as a result such as impotence and infertility. But hey, having a few extra pounds of muscle as a teenager is worth having erectile dysfunction in your 20's!!! Im not saying it will happen, but it is a possibility

**doggydog** · 04-11-2006, 06:33 PM

well i do gain pretty well, i have actually went from 160 to 185 (naturally of course) and decreased my bodyfat (28 to 20). I train 5 times a week, and my nutritional plan is 6 eggs w/ a bowl of Cornflakes, 3 Mesquite Chickens w/Brown Rice, Tuna Fillet, Nitro-Tech Protein Shake two servings, and right before bed a Casein Protein Shake. all in all, about 220 grams of protein. but that's considering that i have a hefty schedule to work around and right now i want to eat more for my bulking stage. i guess i should have talked to you guys before i got the gear though. i may have made a mistake in researching then buying right now. the only problem i have, is that to sell steroids is a lot more dangerous than obtaining them. i really have no way to get rid of these substances (short of using or flushing down the toilet) and i don't really want to have this stuff lying around my house, so maybe if one of you guys wants some d-bol, some deca , or some test. please give me some advice.

**mr. snakes** · 04-11-2006, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by doggydog

hey i just wanted some help on my first cycle and was wondering what some people that had some actual info on the subject thought. now i know some of you will say i am young at 18, but the decision has been made and its something i have come to grips with. i have taken ample time to finally choose this. now for this cycle my goal will be to bulk up. i feel from the information i have garned this is the best route. my stats right now are 5'10" 185 pounds with 20% bf. Now I know these stats may sound a bit bad, but i am pretty strong. I max bench 270, and have squatted 405. I actually am the strongest kid at my high school (obviously not saying much). For my first cycle i have acquired the following compounds:

Test. Ethanate
Test. Propinate
D-Bol
Deca -Durobolin
Clomid

Now the problem i have is my source couldn't get me enough Test Ethanate, so he supplied some Propinate. Now here's the thing. I have enough to take 250 mg/week for 10 weeks of each test so that would be 500 mg of test a week. The Deca, I am set on, and the D-bol I only planned on using for four or five weeks. I was just wondering whether I should sell one test and get more of the one, or if a stack of Deca, Test Ethanate, Test Propinate, D-bol with Clomid recovery would be enough.

please help me so i won't screw up my first cycle.

Start off with:

wk 1-4 Dbol 30mg/ED
wk 1-12 Test E 500mg/wk

After that cycle:
wk 1-4 Dbol 35mg-40mg/ED
wk 1-10 Deca 300mg/wk
wk 1-12 Test E 500mg/wk

**Teabagger** · 04-11-2006, 06:51 PM

Ok my man. Some of these guys on here sound hard and are real short with young men wanting to start aas use way too early. The advice you have been given against the use now is very sound, please listen to it. You still have so much natty potential it makes me envious. You are flush with test, hgh, and igf...everything you need to build the perfect beast. The diet section on here is excellent as well as the supplements section. There are way knowledgeable people in the workout forum. This board will provide to you all the knowledge you can handle in several years as it relates to natty bb. Spend your time in those forums. Now for what to do with the illegal aas?? Personally if I were in your position I'd destroy them...yesterday. Several reasons for this, if you don't have them around...you won't be as tempted to do something stupid, you won't be found with illegal drugs in your possession, and your hiding place will be available for more useful things at your age...like...oh no never mind

Good luck on your goals...and stay natty.

**D-Money** · 04-11-2006, 06:59 PM

I say wait a couple years. I would store your juice in a cool dry place (i think the experation debate is overblown), get your bodyfat down 15% at the most. Try to gain at least 10 or 15lbs of lean mass. Get your blood work done, and an x-ray to see if your growth plates are closed. If so your good to go. If you can accomplish this in less than two years your a greater man than I!

**doggydog** · 04-11-2006, 07:07 PM

thank you for the help guys, i know you too have trained in the trenches and have been the ones to stay home on a Saturday night instead of going to get pizza, well i think that i have some more soul searching to do. its my body and i really think that i don't have much to worry about the height thing (i am the same height as my dad and i haven't grown an inch in a year and a half), but i think that its in me whether i do it or not. i have a place where i guess i can store it but its not that i want to be overly huge just i want a little bit of mass before i go off to college as a base. I would like to be a comfortable 225 someday, and i guess if i really think about that i could accomplish it naturally. i think i can probably find a buyer on my stuff somewhere, it shouldn't be too hard.

**trulbfan3** · 04-11-2006, 08:37 PM

dude i understand your 18 and if your hell bent the age deal is fine with me. but whats not fine with me is your stats. your 5'10'' and 185 w/ 20 % bf. thats definetly not good. you need to be down to at least 12 % body fat and around 210 or more before you juice. right now your cycle should be 400 grams of protien a day, good carbs in moderate doses in the morning and afternoon, creatine "one thats phosphagen based, no monohydrate", vitamins, bcaa's, efa's, and l glutamine. you will be suprised what you can do with that. now back to your question, once youve reached these goals, which are very attainable your first cycle should be

weeks 1-10 test e 500 mg's
14 days after last shot start pct. they have a pct forum so i will not explain what it is. save the rest of your stuff for later or sell it to buy your legal supplements. also you should take the same supplements while on juice and make your you get plenty of quality calories. hope i helped and cleared some stuff up.