Still just not getting it???

[marcanes29]

I have to write this post because I have been doing research on this site for a while now and I still just am not getting everything. I don't think i'm the only newbie on here that thinks this way. We are not chemists. Don't get me wrong everyone that takes there time to help out people they don't even know and trys to make sure they are doing things right is awesome but how can it help if what u guys write looks like a foreign language to them. All the abreviations are killing me. The needles are in cc's where I get them, so how many mg in a cc? Lastly where the hell do we get all these products for antiestrogens and pct because everone I know that does aas where i live has absolutely no clue. I am just writing this cause I need help and I want to do this write. I did a cycle last summer of test e for 10 wks and had no idea what the hell i was doing and it was all good until it was over, killed me for months and lost everything I gained. Like i said just want to do things right this time and no matter how much i read i still am just not getting it completely, maybe it just me I don't know.

[southpaw26]

well for starters you have alot to learn. no offense intended. when we talk mg we are talking the miligrams of a substance. maybe you mean ml mililiter which is a volume amount same as cc.and i have seen this time and time again with the local guys.they dont know enough about aas to be selling it or doing it.any good supplier should be able to get you pct products.and should know what you need and how much you need.dont get in a rush.do your homework.study it all so you will have the knowledge and not have to listen to the local guys BS.

[NOREGRETS]

Abbreviations:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=604

PCT:
http://www.anabolicreview-research.com/

Good Luck

[SwoleCat]

Yeah, and also please read the rules as well.

I wouldn't want you to start asking where to obtain sources N shit.

Lots of that going on lately.

~SC~

[southpaw26]

Yeah, and also please read the rules as well.

I wouldn't want you to start asking where to obtain sources N shit.

Lots of that going on lately.

~SC~

he is right!

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[marcanes29]

I am not asking for sources and i don't take offence thats why i wrote this. Is there ant supplements that I can replace for an antiestrogen (someone told me they take saw palmetto?) and my pct can anything else be taken that I can get on my own? My main concern is that I have a 10ml bottle of test and I don't know how many mg or haow many cc's to take? this is my main problem. Here's my deal. I am 26, 5-10, 190lbs and I have about 15%bf. I want to get bigger but I am mostly looking for the cutting look. I was thinking of running test e and eq and by the way I have a bottle of thestp that i got before i decided to do some good research so can someone give me some advice on how to run this for a second cycle? These are the most availble aas for me to get.

[Nasser]

I am not asking for sources and i don't take offence thats why i wrote this. Is there ant supplements that I can replace for an antiestrogen (someone told me they take saw palmetto?) and my pct can anything else be taken that I can get on my own? My main concern is that I have a 10ml bottle of test and I don't know how many mg or haow many cc's to take? this is my main problem. Here's my deal. I am 26, 5-10, 190lbs and I have about 15%bf. I want to get bigger but I am mostly looking for the cutting look. I was thinking of running test e and eq and by the way I have a bottle of thestp that i got before i decided to do some good research so can someone give me some advice on how to run this for a second cycle? These are the most availble aas for me to get.

What was your 1st cycle like?

[marcanes29]

thanks copperhead thats a huge help.

[marcanes29]

first cycle was test e at 500mg/week for 12 weeks

[stuball]

First it should say how many mg's per ml so if its 200 mgs thats 1 ml, look in the upper right hand corner and you can get all your stuff fot your pct, and there are all kinds of forums on this site, go to the bottom of this page, plenty of people wiill help you..

[IBdmfkr]

Marcanes, the items needed for PCT can be obtained from this site. They are considered research chemicals.

Here you go:
http://www.anabolicreview-research.com/

[marcanes29]

just by writing this I may have learned more in the last 5 min then in about 10 hours of time spent on this site, thanks guys. Can someone just do me one more favor and give me some advice on how to run my next cycle. like i said i un test e and eq, but I also have a 10ml bottle of test p also.

[Nasser]

I know everybody's different but a lot of people seem to say.....ok, Ive got Test E, P and some EQ, for example, how do I run it?
Personally, being it's your second cycle why not grab some more Test E, and run it at a slightly higher dosage. Say 750mg/week.
If you had good gains for the first cycle, and responded well to the Test E, I would keep things simple and go with what works, ensuring Diet is 100% spot on.
That's just me but probably not what your wanting to hear.

[marcanes29]

well here's the deal I can do that but i put on tons of water weight with the teste and i want to get more cut up not bulk up so I was trying to go with something that can cut me up also.

[marcanes29]

if u think a good cutting diet and a good training program will be enough then ok. By the way i lost everything i gained last time and I know it was mostly cause of my inexperience but if everything is done right this time how much gains do u think i'll keep?

[stuball]

Im not sayin your not doing your research, but a lot of people dont, they just listen to people in the gym or a middle man from where they are getting there gear, a friend of mine though 100 mg's equals 1 ml, so he was doing sus 250, he was doing 1 ml and though he was doing 100mg's but in reality he was doing the whole 250, it was his first cycle, and after 6 weeks he started to explode, he was getting huge, but thats not what he wanted he just wanted to put on a little size, so when we decided to run a cycle together, he told me that all i had to do was 1 ml and i would see great results, no matter what it was sus 250, cyp 200 enan 350, 1 ml would do the job, well after some research, i explained to him why he got such great gains, because he didnt know what the f*ck he was doing, but it goes to show you that sometimes being stupid pays off, but also very dangerous.... RESEARCH RESSEARCH RESEARCH...

[marcanes29]

u responded right after me can u get back to me on my question?

[marcanes29]

come on guys just help me out on this one last thing and I won't ever be bothering u again. I have told u guys what i can get right now just need help putting together in a cycle.

[Ih8urdsm]

since you lost most/all your gains on your first cycle. I would consider this your first cycle again to do it correct. There are tons of threads on First Cycles if you do a search, but i'd suggest just running what you did last time, up the test a little, and do PCT Correctly. Just go to Steroid.com and look at steroid cycles: http://www.steroid.com/steroid_cycles.php
and if you post here with a proposed cycle, and the same question about running it as a cutting cycle, you'll get TONS more help probrobly.

Hope i helped a little atleast

[Nasser]

come on guys just help me out on this one last thing and I won't ever be bothering u again. I have told u guys what i can get right now just need help putting together in a cycle.

Well I think everyone will agree it's not that you are bothering us in any way, this is a message board with 1000's of posts and all the Bro's are reading and surfin other pages at the same time, so it usually take's a day to generate some great responses to someone's thread. The whole idea is to stick around and contribute/learn from the board.

With that being said, I think you should research a few things:
PCT, please learn this, it is the most important part of your cycle.
Diet, but you should know this, but you said you made some mistakes before so maybe it needs some work, check out the Diet Forum, everything is there, do a search.
The last thing I would check would be your actual cycle.......have you bought the gear you mentioned already, or is this what you can buy?

[marcanes29]

I bought a bottle of test e and eq and was gonna get more when the funds are available again and the test p I have from before so i have a bottle of each test e , test p , and eq. but i don't really care if everyone thinks i should just go with the test e then i will.

[IBdmfkr]

Agree with Nasser..
Seems like your diet/training/rest/PCT were all lacking on your last cycle.. Time to get to work.

[stuball]

u responded right after me can u get back to me on my question?

This is my first cycle so im passin on the little i know, the more experienced bro's will give you the best advise, but just remember you have to be patient.. Please do research, in on my 9th week and im still asking a million questions. good luck

[Ih8urdsm]

Ok ...
'1 bottle' doesnt really help without knowing how large the bottle is, and the dose. For instance, if its a 10ml bottle of Test E 250mg/ml (250 milligrams per milliliter, ten milliliters, you have 2500mg of Test), then we can figure out how much Test, and for How long it can be run. Ya know what i mean? Same with the EQ, and the Prop.

You posted your stats, so this is probrobly the next question that has to be answered

[marcanes29]

I agree my training was just about the only thing i may have been doing right. Like u said I guess its time to get to work. Research first and for most and once again thanks for the help. I learned a lot in the last hour.

[IBdmfkr]

Here's my suggestion to you.

Start seperate threads in the "diet forum" + "training forum" and let us know how your current diet/routine looks like. Correct these and prepare to grow, AAS or not!.

[marcanes29]

ok i'm staying at my parents tonight so i can't get that info cause my gear is at my apt. I check it out tomorrow and post it. thanks

[IBdmfkr]

I don't want to know about your gear, I want to see your training routine + diet. Anabolics your taking aren't important to me nor do I really think you're ready for them. That's beside the point though.

[Ih8urdsm]

Here's my suggestion to you.

Start seperate threads in the "diet forum" + "training forum" and let us know how your current diet/routine looks like. Correct these and prepare to grow, AAS or not!.

BD i PM'd those pictures to you...

[marcanes29]

trust me not planning to take them until everything is in place just was replying to the member before u. I have been training for a 1 1/2 years now I think I just have to make sure I have my pct and I need to get together a good diet and I'll be ready to go.

[IBdmfkr]

BD i PM'd those pictures to you...

hmm.. too bad you can't PM pics

But if they are of CBino shaving his ass, I've already heard about these and I'd rather not see them.

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[Kale]

This will help with your education as well

http://67.18.108.244//showthread.php...hlight=starter

[stuball]

I bought a bottle of test e and eq and was gonna get more when the funds are available again and the test p I have from before so i have a bottle of each test e , test p , and eq. but i don't really care if everyone thinks i should just go with the test e then i will.

Bro get all your gear at once, what happens if your source gets busted, figure out a cycle, get all your gear, then you should have your PCT also, if you dont have money for gear how are you gonna pay for your diet, thats gonna be way more expensive than you gear and PCT..And i mean a lot more !!!!Good luck

[IBdmfkr]

Very true, I spend approx 150-200$ a wk on food and that's with me cooking 90% of my meals. The meats are what will cost the most

[stuball]

Very true, I spend approx 150-200$ a wk on food and that's with me cooking 90% of my meals. The meats are what will cost the most

Any diet cost a fortune, but a high protien diet, wow, out of control, then you need supplements, not cheap either, sometime buyin in bulk is the way to go, food and supplements, people need to remember, you have to be able to have enough money for the whole cycle 8, 10, 12, 14, weeks, and then its still a learned life style, it will run into the thousands of dollars, then try to feed your family...... F#CK,

[IBdmfkr]

lol, yep... And after you've gained all that newly earned muscle you gotta feed it FOREVER unless you want to lose it. Just something to think about. If you don't love this sport/lifestyle, then get out while you can and stop wasting your time/money/energy on something you don't enjoy.

[greek_pitbull]

you ll find pct at the same place you buy aas

[Ih8urdsm]

Very true, I spend approx 150-200$ a wk on food and that's with me cooking 90% of my meals. The meats are what will cost the most

mmm...Costo rules. I just got 4lbs of steak for $ 14 , 7 lbs of 99% fat free chicken cutlets for $18..and 36 eggs for under $2...now i just have to cook
Steak night tonight!