How long are they in your system?

[JK119]

I am curious how long until my body will feel good again.. I was mostly sick on this whole cycle.. and just wanna get back to normal..

I get sweaty alot.. its only been like 6 days since my last shot.. and just dont feel my normal self.. im a newbie.. would like to know whats going on.. . 1.5cc of test cyp and 1 cc of tren a 2x week for like 8 wks.. im 24..

for my pct.. i just took my first halodrol 50.. so its not that making me feel like shit..

i have tribulus/liquinolva/halodrol 50.. someone tell me whats going on w/ my body?

but im getting like mood swings almost.. headaches.. and sweating .. feel like shit.. anyone know if this is normal and how long it lasts..

[JK119]

help please

[Kale]

Tren is the reason you feel like shit and the fact that your test levels are now dropping. Was this your first cycle ? What is Liquinolva exactly ?

[JK119]

yeah this is my first cycle.. how long until you think i feel better i took my last shot of tren a and test cyp this past thursday.. so its been awhile.. i just wanna feel normal again bro.. tell me what to do.. just nolvadex..

[Kale]

Man do you know what PCT is ? You have to wait 18 days after the last Test C injection and then start Post Cycle Therapy this will restart your natural Test production.. You need to get some Nolvadex and some Clomid, do you know what they are ?

[JK119]

yeah i cant get any clomid.. can i take trib? or something otc in replace of it..

[JK119]

so does it take 18 days to get this shit out of my system?

[longhorn814]

you need to learn what proper PCT is

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94626

read this and then click on the flashing banner on the upper right hand corner to get the necessary supplies. The things you are wanting to use are NOT recommended for an AAS cycle PCT

[longhorn814]

so does it take 18 days to get this shit out of my system?

no read this,

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94822

[JK119]

i just dont wanna inject nothing else dude.. i wanna be thru w/ all of it.. and i wanna feel normal again.. i was sick almost the whole cycle.. i didnt like it..

[JK119]

good gains but not worth it to me.. so what can i take otc that is most effective i got an estrogen blocker..

[Kale]

yeah i cant get any clomid.. can i take trib? or something otc in replace of it..

None of that shit will work like Clomid and Nolvadex. you can get them here http://www.anabolicreview-research.c...2e74296ea71673

and here http://www.anabolicreview-research.c...products_id=41

[JK119]

im not taking clomid and i have nolvadex.. i seen to many sides for clomid im tired of sides.. what about hcg?

[JK119]

so my test levels are going to be high for another 12 days since my last shot was thursday.. damn

[oldman]

i just dont wanna inject nothing else dude.. i wanna be thru w/ all of it.. and i wanna feel normal again.. i was sick almost the whole cycle.. i didnt like it..

Wow dude not to flame you but you did your first cycle way to early with this many worries.

1. PCT is required to get your normal blood levels back.. When you take Test your body stops making its own so when you stop your body does not automatically pick up the slack, that is why you do PCT to get your body producing again ASAP.

2. Trib/ZMA are okay to add to your PCT but are not true PCT IMO as they will not do what needs to be done fast enough.. Now as far as adding Halo-50 you need PCT for that also so IMO Again you are hurting yourself by using this. Halo-50 IS a Steroid so you are putting yourself back in the same situation. I don't know a ton about Halo-50 so someone else can add their two cents.

3. Go to our sponsor above and get yourself some Clomid and Novadex it is oral and you can start taking that. Clomid should be taken for 28-30 days after your cycle. Each AAS will have a different start time on PCT. I think someone noted above to start on day 18.. this is how long it stays in your system so starting PCT before that is wasteful (I did the same thing on my last Sust cycle)... anyway get REAL PCT chems.

4. Until your natural Test levels are normal (edit) you will probably feel like crap because I am guessing your estrogen levels are screwy (edit). What did you take during your cycle for anti-e?

5. Is this your first cycle? Tren as far as I understand it is not for the newbie users. You should stick with TestC or E and maybe EQ or Deca and call it good on a first cycle.


anyway bro it will get better just need to do the right PCT.


~Old

[Kale]

HCG should have been started a week ago. If you just do Nolvadex you need to do 40mg a day for the first week of PCT and then back it off to 20mg for the rest of PCT. I dont think Test is your issue, it was the Tren. Not a good choice for your first cycle

[oldman]

im not taking clomid and i have nolvadex.. i seen to many sides for clomid im tired of sides.. what about hcg?

you should have taken HCG during your cycle to keep your testes ready to act when it was time.. To late now.. man up and get on Clomid and Nolvadex.


~Old

[oldman]

Kale, we think alike on this one.. hahahaha


~Old

[JK119]

i took estrogenex.. should i stay on an estrogen blocker until the 18th day? and then start my nolva.. i'll get trib/zma or ill get some clomid if i have to.. even though rather not b/c of the sides i read about.. just fearful man.. i puked i dunno how many times on this cycle.. and since my last shot.. been running a little fever.. went to the doc and get some amoxil just in case of infection or anything. i think tren was a bad idea also..

[JK119]

thanks for the posts guys .. i need the support.. i should of probably not of run any gear at all.. i take lexapro for anxiety and i think i put myself thru hell on this .. im gonna have to stick w/ pro-hormones

[Kale]

Old, we always think alike bro !!!!

[JK119]

tell me what will help to take right now even though my 18 days havent expired.. .. what i should be taking right now

[oldman]

I don't know what estrogenex is but it looks like an OTC anti-e. IMO use real stuff if you are going to use AAS. You may just need to tough this out being sick and all but I would do proper PCT because after day 18 your Test levels are going to drop and you are going to feel even worse (very good chance of this). Sides from PCT are far less abrasive than sides from Not using PCT.


~Old

[Kale]

I wouldnt stick with anything if I was you, you just dont sound like you are ready to do juice of any kind. Let this be a lesson to do some research before you go throwing shit into your body you know nothing about, this isnt meant to be a flame bro, but you could have avoided all this with some research

[Kale]

I don't know what estrogenex is but it looks like an OTC anti-e. IMO use real stuff if you are going to use AAS. You may just need to tough this out being sick and all but I would do proper PCT because after day 18 your Test levels are going to drop and you are going to feel even worse (very good chance of this). Sides from PCT are far less abrasive than sides from Not using PCT.


~Old

Absofvckinglutely !!!!!

[JK119]

so just let me know what to take right now... ill get some clomid.. and i got the nolva.. anything i can take now to help get my test ready .. or vitamins or anything

[Kale]

Nothing we can tell you bro, your test levels are high right now you just have to tough it out I am afraid

[JK119]

i agree.. i have taken it as a warning i jus thope i come out of it okay..

[JK119]

should i be taking an estrogen blocker right now?

[longhorn814]

so my test levels are going to be high for another 12 days since my last shot was thursday.. damn

no your test levels are gradually falling down to near zero and if you dont do a proper PCT with nolva and clomid they will stay low and you will feel ever worse b/c of low test levels. PCT gets them back to a normal range. I suggest you do a lot more research before you ever stick anything in your body that you have no idea what they do

[JK119]

test cyp doesnt fall until 18 days.. so i shouldnt be taking an estrogen blocker right now? .. i should just be waiting?

[Kale]

test cyp doesnt fall until 18 days.. so i shouldnt be taking an estrogen blocker right now? .. i should just be waiting?

You can take 10mg of Nolvadex ED just to be on the safe side if you want

[JK119]

thanks kale.. and to all that say i shouldnt stick myself to i research.. more..

i believe also... the man who somewhat hooked me up did not guide me correctly and been juicin for awhile so shit dont harm him much.. but me.. screwed me up.. and i dont wanna touch it again.. but i think its for the best.. so thanks for helping me out.. so im guessin u all think i will live thru this right?

[Kale]

thanks kale.. and to all that say i shouldnt stick myself to i research.. more..

i believe also... the man who somewhat hooked me up did not guide me correctly and been juicin for awhile so shit dont harm him much.. but me.. screwed me up.. and i dont wanna touch it again.. but i think its for the best.. so thanks for helping me out.. so im guessin u all think i will live thru this right?

You will be fine, just have a positive attitude about it. You have come to the right place for info thats for sure, there are heaps of guys here who know shitloads about juicing. More than your dumb mate thats for sure

[JK119]

so im gonna be fine just need to do the right pct after 12 more days right? if its been 6 already.. and all the nolvadex does is block test from aromatizing into estrogen correct? maybe to much estrogen in me too right now.. b/c the last week i havent been on an estrogen blcoker

[Kale]

so im gonna be fine just need to do the right pct after 12 more days right? if its been 6 already.. and all the nolvadex does is block test from aromatizing into estrogen correct? maybe to much estrogen in me too right now.. b/c the last week i havent been on an estrogen blcoker

Yes PCT starts in 12 days. This will explain what Nolvadex does http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199821

[TinTin78]

You should feel better in just a few days, and I am doing my pct without clomid right now, only using Nolva, Proviron, Clenbuterol for pct with some natural supplements like Tribilus (6g ed, 12 caps), ZMA, Animalstack2, and GH max. I feel good so far, a little headache from the clen I guess.

[longhorn814]

so im gonna be fine just need to do the right pct after 12 more days right? if its been 6 already.. and all the nolvadex does is block test from aromatizing into estrogen correct? maybe to much estrogen in me too right now.. b/c the last week i havent been on an estrogen blcoker

Nolvadex doesnt block test from aromatizing to estrogen. If you want to do that you need to take an aromatase inhibitor such as arimidex. They work in two completely different ways.

[JK119]

so nolvadex just blocks estrogen right?

[longhorn814]

nolva blocks estrogen from binding to receptors in your breast tissue, thus preventing gyno from developing. It does NOT prevent if from aromatising from test. Nolva is a SERM (selective estrogren receptor module) and it is actually a synthetic form of estrogen.