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    can I have no anxiety on t3/clen if I stay at women's doses?

    I am just coming of off 5yrs on paxil and paxil is known for having the most weight gain of all SSRI's. im trying to shed only 18lbs. From 185-168lbs. I am 5'10 28yr old. im at 14.5%bf and want to get to about 6%, but dont wanna risk CNS damage.

    Question: will t3/clen give me anxiety or adversely affect my CNS if I do female type doses of: max dose 80mg/clen, max dose 50mg/t3?? I dont need to lose that that much, but just looking for a lil boost.

    thanks guys.

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    Try diet and cardio much more effective and does nothign to your CNS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giants11
    Try diet and cardio much more effective and does nothign to your CNS.
    though i agree that those are the two things to work on first, clen /t3 can help save you a lot of time getting to where you want to be. some will say just diet and do cardio and save the clen/t3 for pro's trying to get below 5%, others will act as if clen and t3 are no big deal. you'll get very mixed reviews about it depending on peoples personal opinions. i just don't get why a lot of guys in here will do gear to help bulk up, but when it comes to using things to help them cut up, suddenly they change their stance on things?

    as far as coming of the paxil, congrats. i'm personally against using anti-anxiety meds, but that's a whole different story. regardless, good to hear you're off them. now that you're off though, i don't think it would be a good idea to use clen at all. as far as cns damage, that's not what would be a concern. clen does cause anxiety in most people, just as any cns stimulant would. with me, by the time i was at 40mcg, i was already feeling some anxiety from it.

    you need to get your anxiety completely under control before even thinking about clen. having just come off a med that masks anxiety symptoms, then taking something that causes anxiety is just a very bad idea.

    i'd avoid all stimulants if i were you and rather than worry about the weight, focus on controlling your anxiety. once you do, nothing will give you anxiety attacks. i know from personal experience. until then though, you have to be careful. good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ascendant
    though i agree that those are the two things to work on first, clen /t3 can help save you a lot of time getting to where you want to be. some will say just diet and do cardio and save the clen/t3 for pro's trying to get below 5%, others will act as if clen and t3 are no big deal. you'll get very mixed reviews about it depending on peoples personal opinions. i just don't get why a lot of guys in here will do gear to help bulk up, but when it comes to using things to help them cut up, suddenly they change their stance on things?

    as far as coming of the paxil, congrats. i'm personally against using anti-anxiety meds, but that's a whole different story. regardless, good to hear you're off them. now that you're off though, i don't think it would be a good idea to use clen at all. as far as cns damage, that's not what would be a concern. clen does cause anxiety in most people, just as any cns stimulant would. with me, by the time i was at 40mcg, i was already feeling some anxiety from it.

    you need to get your anxiety completely under control before even thinking about clen. having just come off a med that masks anxiety symptoms, then taking something that causes anxiety is just a very bad idea.

    i'd avoid all stimulants if i were you and rather than worry about the weight, focus on controlling your anxiety. once you do, nothing will give you anxiety attacks. i know from personal experience. until then though, you have to be careful. good luck.
    dude, ur the man, thanks a lot for the lengthy post. I appreciate it A LOT. I will opt out on clen to be safe. what about T3 tho? just up to 50mcg/day for 6wks, something to re-jump start my ssri induced weight gain? t3 wont cause anxiety at that dose like clen would right/wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAPhattie
    I am just coming of off 5yrs on paxil and paxil is known for having the most weight gain of all SSRI's. im trying to shed only 18lbs. From 185-168lbs. I am 5'10 28yr old. im at 14.5%bf and want to get to about 6%, but dont wanna risk CNS damage.

    Question: will t3/clen give me anxiety or adversely affect my CNS if I do female type doses of: max dose 80mg/clen, max dose 50mg/t3?? I dont need to lose that that much, but just looking for a lil boost.

    thanks guys.
    First off.. no one can say how any compound will affect you entirely. As individual responses differ.

    Secondly.. how is 80 mcg Clen and 50 mcg t3 a "woman's dose"? I don't even use that much

    Thirdly.. 18 lbs is 8 weeks of dieting.. 2 months.. get to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narkissos
    First off.. no one can say how any compound will affect you entirely. As individual responses differ.

    Secondly.. how is 80 mcg Clen and 50 mcg t3 a "woman's dose"? I don't even use that much

    Thirdly.. 18 lbs is 8 weeks of dieting.. 2 months.. get to it
    Theres your answer.....agreed

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    its not the 18lbs thats hard, its the uphill battle w/ post ssri weight loss. i do 45min/2x-day cardio, low fat, low carb, high protein. 6mini meals a day, pretty clean diet. but if u read paxilprogress.org or any other ssri related website they'll all mention the weight issue. any bodybuilder knows that u can do allllll the cardio and dieting in the world u want, but if u have a horrible thyroid u wont lose anything. thats why im wondering what the least dose I can do of clen /t3 would be that'd still be affective but barely any side effects. something to jump start that process...

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    any suggestions??

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